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The danger of being known as a skeptic is that people tend to always view anything you say through that light.
In some ways, you are the boy that cried wolf, because your point of view is, almost invariably, inconvenient... something that disrupts the status quo, something that interrupts plans set in motion and comfortable assumptions.
I accept that, like Cassandra, my warnings will go unheeded. I accept also that sometimes my natural skepticism may prevent me from seeing certain possibilities (I experienced that at Niantic).
Over the last few days, however, +H. Richard Loeb has surfaced the increasing velocity of the projects emerging for 13MAGNUS: REAWAKENS and Agent +Jared Elgvin's Tecthulhu project.
I cannot overstate how much dread I experience thinking of what these projects may awaken.
We witnessed +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe's calamitous fall. We saw the Tecthulhu images from Tycho. We now see +Jared Elgvin's mental state being slowly affected by what he is building.
And the attitude of most towards all this is: Sounds good. Proceed?
Skeptic or not -- this is madness.
In some ways, you are the boy that cried wolf, because your point of view is, almost invariably, inconvenient... something that disrupts the status quo, something that interrupts plans set in motion and comfortable assumptions.
I accept that, like Cassandra, my warnings will go unheeded. I accept also that sometimes my natural skepticism may prevent me from seeing certain possibilities (I experienced that at Niantic).
Over the last few days, however, +H. Richard Loeb has surfaced the increasing velocity of the projects emerging for 13MAGNUS: REAWAKENS and Agent +Jared Elgvin's Tecthulhu project.
I cannot overstate how much dread I experience thinking of what these projects may awaken.
We witnessed +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe's calamitous fall. We saw the Tecthulhu images from Tycho. We now see +Jared Elgvin's mental state being slowly affected by what he is building.
And the attitude of most towards all this is: Sounds good. Proceed?
Skeptic or not -- this is madness.
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+Martin Schubert, speaking as a member of the +Team Resonessence and camp skeptic, we would love to have your input on our project. As we want to approach this as safely as possible.Reply Apr 28, 2017.webp)
Achim S.+1It’s always good advice to hear the skeptic voice. In my opinion the projects might awaken the unknown within ourself. Through the process of creativity we’re able to reveal our shadow archetypes[1] or as +Edgar Allan Wright would say our secondary archetypes. Is it madness to search for the unknown? The unknown can’t be explained and so I’m not sure to call these projects madness without knowing about the possible results.
[1] plus.google.com - The Shadow Archetypes In each of us there is another whom we do not know. Th...Reply Apr 28, 2017- +Martin Schubert, #TeamResonessence has in there possession a picture that was sent to us and we would love your opinion on it!
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Like Stein and Yuri, I’ve got a bad feeling about the upcoming events in Afghanistan, Florence and Austin. There is no way to calculate what will happen when the Shōnin stone is activated. My effects and papers are all in a safe place with coded instructions (hmfzounf2/4) for retrieval.
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Each time I try to follow in +Hank Johnson's footsteps, I grow to respect him even more.
What an amazing skill it is to be able to look at a network of coded memories and think: How did time and generations of retelling slowly morph what was once an epiphany and a truth, into a deeply nested metaphor.
I lack Hank's innate talent, but I am slowly coming to realize that the skill is actually an act of creative thinking -- imagination. To look at a metaphor and ask: Where in our reality does this piece fit? It is like solving a puzzle: Testing the edges, looking for the patterns.
Soon, one is roaming a universe of possibilities. It is exhilarating. A mythical place can become a place, an asteroid, perhaps even the black hole at the center of the galaxy.
When the next piece fits into the puzzle, it both opens new possibilities and closes others.
What an amazing skill it is to be able to look at a network of coded memories and think: How did time and generations of retelling slowly morph what was once an epiphany and a truth, into a deeply nested metaphor.
I lack Hank's innate talent, but I am slowly coming to realize that the skill is actually an act of creative thinking -- imagination. To look at a metaphor and ask: Where in our reality does this piece fit? It is like solving a puzzle: Testing the edges, looking for the patterns.
Soon, one is roaming a universe of possibilities. It is exhilarating. A mythical place can become a place, an asteroid, perhaps even the black hole at the center of the galaxy.
When the next piece fits into the puzzle, it both opens new possibilities and closes others.
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Xelonir+1First impression: some sort of altar with an object on it (maybe the item Hank found in the temple). Surrounded by the four elements (fire and water clearly identifyable by the color, earth and air rather by the different shape of the outlines of the pictrograms).
The inside the pictograms looks basically identical (mountains with trees and maybe a lake in the foreground, something like a house on most of the middle ones - a clue to the location?), but with varying parts highlighted in blue and slightly different shapes of the mountains.
Two small symbols left and reight of the base of the "altar", which iteslf looks a bit like a cave entrance in a rocky wall.
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This is depiction of the sacred Mount Meru. Did Lightman reference to this as the mountain at the bridge of the worlds?Reply Jan 18, 2015.webp)
Mount Meuru, the physical, metaphysical and spiritual center of the world. Atleast, this is the legend, probably a place with massive concentration of XM or Chaotic Matter, connecting our world into other dimensions?Reply Jan 18, 2015.webp)
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12 mountains outside the 7 walls of mountains.
A great mountain in the middle with the moon on the left side and the sun on the right.
Btw: it really seems, that 12 is an important number.Reply Jan 18, 2015- Xelonir+1+Petra Wenz yes, the number 12 is very important in many areas (zodiac signs, etc.) ... I always wondered why the Magnusses call themselves *13*Magnus ...
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A vortex. Are the nests where outbound XM balances all the inbound signals from other portals? Our broadcast towers for other channels' own dialtones?Reply Jan 18, 2015.webp)
+The First & Foremost I thought something similar too. Reminds me more of a chakra map with the key always being, of course, found neighboring Kundalini.
[Folding over onto and into itself. An hourglass repeating.]
And speaking of Kundalini neighbors I suspect that Carl Jung could still have a whole lot to say about all of this.
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What about the Fifth Element? Someone call Leeloo! Or maybe Lexy Loo Who...Reply Jan 18, 2015.webp)
Put it bluntly, it's a matter of perspective.
Hank as shown a constant evolution regarding is thoughts during all the coallitions with resistance/enlightened.
Even after becoming "something" after leaving the caves, only his body as seemed to be different.
Not once he as shown a different directive than the pimary, knowledge.
All this time he wanted more and more knowledge about the shapers and studied all the changes they've made on us.
Even now with something new and most say dangerous, the N'zeer, he doesn't stand back.
I'm pretty sure even with his Enlightened path, he'll be the one that awakens them from theyr slumber.Reply Jan 18, 2015.webp)
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Hank's ability to make connections where no one else can is incredible, on top of the fact that the connections are virtually always proven accurate. Is that like gaining the ability to see the world around us with a type of forbidden clarity of the universe breaking variety?Reply Jan 18, 2015.webp)
+Martin Schubert your best bet is not try to "follow in +Hank Johnson footsteps" but to make your own path. We are all better in areas and not so good in others.Reply Jan 19, 2015.webp)
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A fantastic read. It's good to be reminded every now and again that our work stands on the shoulders of so many giants.
Our all-consuming lives and research and trials may one day change the scale of human impact, from being an insignificant fleck in the universe, to a ripple, to a wave.
Our all-consuming lives and research and trials may one day change the scale of human impact, from being an insignificant fleck in the universe, to a ripple, to a wave.
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I've been studying the information that +Klue S. revealed to Agents at the last #Helios Anomaly.
This image in particular caught my attention.
The work I had been doing showed the possibility of underlying patterns in the #Helios Portals, but this articulation seems much more... distinct.
I intend to spend more time looking into this.
This image in particular caught my attention.
The work I had been doing showed the possibility of underlying patterns in the #Helios Portals, but this articulation seems much more... distinct.
I intend to spend more time looking into this.
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I think this software is being run by omnivore if that cut off word at the bottom of the screen is any indicationReply Oct 1, 2014.webp)
The world enveloped by what seem to be an icosahedron in yellow (20 sided polyhedron) and a dodecahedron (12 sided polyhedron) in red. Maybe it's a partial activation of the 40 artifacts.Reply Oct 1, 2014- Omnivore is picking up some interesting patterns. The triangles remind agents of fielding the globe. Interesting pentagons beyond that though...
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Reply Oct 1, 2014- +J.J. Ramirez a dodecahedron is a 3D solid built from 12 perfect pentagons as facets. An icosahedron is 3D solid built from 20 perfect triangles as facets.
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I wonder, is there an xm portal in the center of the earth?Reply Oct 1, 2014- +Martin Schubert Do you by chance know the people that were shown/heard in the video? We know Hank Johnson is in it, but who is the other? Is it Calvin?
Reply Oct 1, 2014 - Icosahedron:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_icosahedron
Dodecahedron:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodecahedron
And some more info here:
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Oct 1, 2014- Highlighted are the enl target sites for #Helios. That place in Russia; New Delhi, India; Kobe, Japan
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An Icosahedron and a dodecahedron enclosing earth, a sphere. maybe there are outer layers made of an octahedron, a cube, and a tetrahedron in that order..Reply Oct 1, 2014- So, is this arrangement something that would be used to protect the planet or to expose it?
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Oct 1, 2014- There is a portal in the center of the earth but it was submitted as a couch portal by the deros
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Were the Artifacts not in 2 layers when rendered together? This appears to also be two layers.Reply Oct 1, 2014.webp)
+moonfleet may be unto something. I'll do some rough combination of both shapes later. The number of the two sides combined are 32. "32 Paths of Wisdom." Are a relatively well agreed upon part of Kaballah especially The Tree of Life. The Tree of life traditionally comes with 11 "Spheres" of reprentation though a 12th "hidden" or "0 base" is commonly alluded to in many variations of the tradition. Very interesting indeed. Reply Oct 1, 2014.webp)
I lightened the picture to reveal the above. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bz6LmXMLB0ANbWIzTEpnam1US0U/edit?usp=docslist_apiReply Oct 1, 2014.webp)
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Also, remember that the cell naming convention is based on a virtual cube around the Earth. The first letters of the cell name indicate which face of the cube the cell is on.Reply Oct 1, 2014.webp)
Is the red the primary sites with yellow being regional? I doubt it since it looks like some are at sea, are they where the artifacts emerged? I note some of the bright lighting of the beacon is near where they criss cross.Reply Oct 1, 2014- I note where previous agents mention those green flashes as being enlightened targets fir the artifacts. I didn't see any blue flashes during the Tacoma cross faction meet up when Klue interrupted us with the video.
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Is this related to the stuff that was released way back in nov 2012 by Kureze and the early studies done by Professor R.?Reply Oct 1, 2014- +Paul Gettlethat was my thought at first also, however that map you link to does not split up land mass, the picture above does
Reply Oct 1, 2014 - Good thought, +JoJo Stratton - I wonder if it'd be worth a new analysis of keyhole data (especially before and after the Helios anomaly) would yield new insights?
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Had a thought. What if the artifacts were part of some ancient defence system to keep the Shapers out? A quote from Haven sums where this might be going."What was once your salvation is now your doom"Reply Oct 1, 2014.webp)
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those lines (links?) are interweaved. red crosses on top in some places, yellow in others.Reply Oct 1, 2014.webp)
As carnivore was an FBI system to packet sniff targeted users.. perhaps in its early stages they discovered some use of the portals and fields to gain control of people.. or their thoughts. Perhaps omnivore was the early stages of using an ai with portals before they understood xm wasn't just on one frequency, then the project split when they realized there's two different ones. It would seem in the picture they used both colors together for awhile? Could they layer independently?Reply Oct 1, 2014- oh speaking of the ivore - is that number after it the version number? do we have other version numbers for comparison?
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- I was looking at my version that I posted earlier... I think that I saw something written in Russia, above Mongolia.
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It seems my predictions were correct. Data emerging from an array of Portals I have been monitoring constantly since the emergence of +Devra Bogdanovich's Virus shows slowing in the rate of Portal Decay.
It seems, after an initial, sharp drop, the Decay Rate has stabilized at approximately 5 days.
While this is a welcome change, it must be reiterated that the Portals remain vulnerable to future iterations of Bogdanovich and the CDC's 'Portal Virus' technology.
The long term solution rests in the #Helios Artifacts.
It seems, after an initial, sharp drop, the Decay Rate has stabilized at approximately 5 days.
While this is a welcome change, it must be reiterated that the Portals remain vulnerable to future iterations of Bogdanovich and the CDC's 'Portal Virus' technology.
The long term solution rests in the #Helios Artifacts.
- When the rules of the game are rigged to benefit one party, its time to change the rules of the game. The artifacts will be stopped. We will not play into the corporations hands.
As +Hank Johnson has said, exposing millions of civilians to XM is criminal. While most of us do want the portals to return to their former rate of decay, the ends do not justify the means.Reply Aug 1, 2014 - Jul 31, 2014
- Well done, +Martin Schubert. Have you detected any further destabilization building from +Devra Bogdanovich? You might want to focus on Aricebo. It could be in a quantum entangled state with Dr. Bogdanovich.
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Jul 31, 2014- Thank you +Martin Schubert. Please keep monitoring the situation and keep us informed..
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- Actual Naintic Labs footage upon learning the 700MMU+ had been reached - http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbao7peXgW1r50mmk.gif
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Cyber Trout+15Fools. It is always human nature to try to control and eradicate that which we don't understand. From hunting wolves to extinction, to trying to stop the Mississippi River from flooding the surrounding area. We only destroy or make things worse.
We want to protect the force that has been here since the dawn of humanity. We want it to take its natural course. The Resistance has been manipulated. First they allow machine intelligence to come to power and try to slowly enslave humanity, and now you aid a mad zealot hell bent on destroying the one thing that has brought us all together. Resist the futility and lies of the Resistance. Accept free will and choice.Reply Jul 31, 2014- +Yik Sheng Lee Even +Roland Jarvis believes this to be an insane idea. Having the whole world output that much XM is insane!
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+Yik Sheng Lee this is all well and good, but has Devra shared and of her data? I realize we are going off Martin's word as well, but Devra seems hell-bent on killing the portals. Not just neutralizing them.Reply Jul 31, 2014.webp)
So +NIA Ops Needs to outline "Up Front" what needs to happen with the artifacts and what the effect will be when we succeed with these artifacts or fail with them. They need to be clear up front what will be the result in the end. None of their typical Calvinball BS.Reply Jul 31, 2014.webp)
Jul 31, 2014- +Thomas Peters they certainly do. Clarity would help us make the decision that best suits or beliefs, not just the blanket beliefs of each faction.
+Yik Sheng Lee agreed. Is there somewhere outside g+ that I can join in this discussion? I constantly feel like a wallflower at the school dance.Reply Jul 31, 2014 - +Yik Sheng Lee I have thought about asking to join. However I don't have a lot of resources to bring to the table. Very limited knowledge of ingress history and even less free time to examine it. Would I still be welcomed despite this?
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+Thomas Peters never gonna happen. They've already gotten as close as they're going to, hinting at dragons and Lovecraftian horrors and Oh! By the way! Here are some ancient artifacts to play with! They'll fix everything, we promise...Reply Jul 31, 2014- +Kody Propps it's a game (or possibly a huge conspiracy) called Ingress. You can play it for free on an android or iPhone, capturing real-world locations for your team. Join the Enlightened, and we will help you understand what is going on. The world around you is not as it seems...
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Jul 31, 2014- In case this is more than just a game. Who knows? If it's all real, then the whole world could be in danger.
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+Devra Bogdanovich, tell us how we can contribute to your cause! #TeamDevraReply Aug 1, 2014.webp)
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If the Portal Virus is not enough, then further measures will simply have to be taken. #TeamDevra will prevail. You have many allies +Devra Bogdanovich, time to put them to work.Reply Aug 1, 2014.webp)
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Aug 1, 2014- +Markus Badberg Unnecessary. I thought this Martin's message could be an announcement about something is going to be in the live game soon. Relax.
Reply Aug 1, 2014 - +Víctor García I am relaxed. Was not meant seriously. see the smiley ;-) I wanted to say in a different way, not just "yes" ;-)
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I imagined a scene like that! Now you will begin to take the blue portals with less decay of the greens? +Devra Bogdanovich 'll make some portals or invisible because with another virus? Thx +Martin Schubert for this info!Reply Aug 1, 2014- Aug 1, 2014
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- A small victory, but I am still worried. +Devra Bogdanovich treatens us with an advanced portal virus, 700million MU won't be enough to stop it. What we can't get enough of the artifacts in positions? The portals are crucial for humanity.
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Aug 1, 2014- It seems my prediction was correct, from many hacks today, less PCube I had. You guys had same thing?
Reply Aug 1, 2014 - +Aulia Rahman Out of 20 hacks yes, less PC is falling. but this is a very small set of data
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Aug 1, 2014- +Péter Csiszár yes, not accurate, but we can feel it. +Charles Keisler yes, very logic thinking, even though no official release yet.
Reply Aug 1, 2014 - +justin dawson halfway between the two. Download Ingress from the Android or iOS app store, join the Enlightened, and find your local community on G+. We'll help you figure out what's going on.
Reply Aug 1, 2014 - +justin dawson It seems to be part of a game...I found it under Ingress on the app store....Also this Ian guy is roleplaying pretty hard on this enlightened thing....In case this is an actual thing I'm gonna go against enlightened.
Reply Aug 1, 2014 - +justin dawson It seems to be part of a game...I found it under Ingress on the app store....Also this Ian guy is roleplaying pretty hard on this enlightened thing....In case this is an actual thing I'm gonna go against enlightened.
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- It seems ingress is an app by google... So I am guessing that this is a publicity stunt!
Reply Aug 1, 2014 - +Eman Gamer I guess, kinda...
You've actually stumbled onto a portion of the "storyline" for ingress. Granted that storyline is a bit open ended and has no defined end. If it got you to check out ingress, good! Otherwise continue as normal, not meant to be an ad.
Honestly if you dont have a friend on here who plays, I dont know how you found this but check it out, its fun and free (no ads either, google benefits by having updated route times etc. Thats why its free, location info is not disseminated or sold).
Also im enlightened. Not all of us are crazy, just most. Make your own choice, thats the fun of it.Reply Aug 1, 2014 - Aug 2, 2014
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This is good news for those of us in the resistance who are actively trying to capture and observe a shaper.Reply Aug 4, 2014- Aug 14, 2014
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Work has just begun to develop a long term solution to the accelerated Portal Decay caused by +Devra Bogdanovich's so-called 'Portal Virus,' but we believe we have determined a method to stall further deployments of this dangerous technology and perhaps reverse some of its effects as well.
Our research shows that if the combined Global MU Level is above 700 Million at the end of the first #Helios Anomaly(^), +Devra Bogdanovich's next planned deployment is likely to fail, and in fact, Portal Decay may begin to decelerate towards its former state.
(^) By the final Checkpoint prior to Measurement 4 - #Helios - San Diego.
Our research shows that if the combined Global MU Level is above 700 Million at the end of the first #Helios Anomaly(^), +Devra Bogdanovich's next planned deployment is likely to fail, and in fact, Portal Decay may begin to decelerate towards its former state.
(^) By the final Checkpoint prior to Measurement 4 - #Helios - San Diego.
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- Interesting. Combined resonated Mind Units as a counteragent - this virus truly seems to be something new. Could it be CM-based?
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - So, only need both factions to redouble their efforts, without stepping on each others' toes. Got it.
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Yaleka+39I hope not. The virus has excellent balancing side-effects to many stale cities that have been in the hold of one side for month. Suddendly portals are changing sides again!
This game hasn't been this active since last summer - and it's not the new level2 iOS players causing this.
It's old players coming outside again because they see the dynamics this brilliant virus creates! Thank you, Devra.
So, I actually hope the Helios achievement fails and the new lifeblood stays some more.Reply Jul 16, 2014.webp)
+Yaleka the decay may have had balancing effects now, but it if accellerates, we may start seeing portals go offline from decay and not return. Then we'll be seeing desperation.Reply Jul 16, 2014.webp)
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Right. Getting both factions to work together on this one. I'd love to see it work but I'm not counting on itReply Jul 16, 2014- How bout the post from +Niantic University? Is this possible cure more likely than the other? Which is allowing the portals to go grey then capping?
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - +james freeman I personally believe that Schubert and Niantic University have different methods on the Portal Virus thing.
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The new decay rate rocks :) Definitely livens the game up, and Recharging actually means something now ;)Reply Jul 16, 2014.webp)
My engagement with the game is at a high ever since the decay. Based on the comments I have read a lot are actually fine with it. They are just not be the angry ones.Reply Jul 16, 2014.webp)
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To those who love the new decay rate - what if it is not fully reversed? So new agents can hold portals a bit longer but it still keeps things moving ? I think this is what they are ultimately heading towards.Reply Jul 16, 2014- +Dustin Wiley It may be useful having it last at this higher rate for Helios, and longer term, perhaps have it drop to a new stable rate of 20% or 25% instead of the previous 15%. Remember decay has grown with the increase of agent numbers, starting at 0, then 10%, then 15%. With a massive influx of agents, I'm thinking that 20% (5 days) is probably going to be a good compromise between the two decay factions.
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - So a large spike is Agent Activity is supposed to act like an interferon and control the viral activity??? Interesting..
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+Martin Schubert, so if I understand correctly for those who may side with +Devra Bogdanovich our goal will be to prevent the 700 million mu?Reply Jul 16, 2014- Even though I'm at level 9, I like the faster decay rate. I'm too lazy to go for the 90-day and 150-day guardian badges. I need AP and recharging credit to reach level 10. The faster decay rate gives me more opportunities to attack enemy fields AND to recharge friendly portals.
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - I'm guessing that it will be some time before the worldwide MU count reaches 700 million. My speculation is that Niantic expects the new iOS players on both sides to eventually increase the MU count.
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - +Gavin Treadgold what about decay based on the density of population? Because i live in a remote area and keeping alive the portals is becoming a suicide
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - +Jason Hsu It has happened on 2014.23, 2014.06, 2014.5. Those were due to large scale operations, which take a while to plan. Be interesting to see what comes up in the short time availible.
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - The efforts to counter what +Devra Bogdanovich started sounds a lot like bathing the world in the light of XM. #Helios indeed.
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - +Mattia Vassalli Why do you need to keep all the portals alive? That's boring. Let them decay and refield them. I live rurally too and much of what I hack is P5, anything above that is a bonus.
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - +Gavin Treadgold because not all the people can afford the time and the cost of fuel to refield every three day
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - +Mattia Vassalli So just let them decay then, and just play within the scope of what you are able? Or make fewer and larger fields and just maintain them, rather than a patchwork of small fields.
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - +Gavin Treadgold and what is the fun about it? I just let my portal decay and i won't put resonators back because i have no time to waste hanging around so much, and then i'll stop to play because all the effort i put in a day in 3 days is already gone. Plus, the strategy and the battle of this game die
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - +Mattia Vassalli As he said, make bigger and fewer fields. Change your strategy to meet the game.
Reply Jul 16, 2014 - +Adrian Scott fine, but probably i'll stop playing if devra wins, i'll just stand by for what happends
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It just doesn't make sense. Faster decay rate meant leveling the play-field. More decayed portals makes it easier for all these new agents to step up and start. So everyone can deploy, field, etc.
I thought it was a great choice, balances the game a lot for the moment.
Then now, they say to get 700M MU combined. Which means a lot of fields over areas which will stifle the leveling capabilities of those new agents...
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Interesting that the next history point down (just out of frame of the attached picture on this post), the MU total was well over 700 million. Clearly possible before the increased decay rate, but now?Reply Jul 16, 2014.webp)
Easy fix. Enlightened put up 2 billion in asia. Resistance put up 1 billion in India and egypt. Decay over! Resume your normal ingress activities.Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
So, is there a cross-faction coordinated effort to destroy any large field ASAP?Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
Why is no one talking about the 2 passcodes in this image? I don't know enough about decoding them to get anywhere, but I do know that there are two of them in there. Or one, with the other as a clue, or something like that.Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
+Martin Schubert What will count, the actual MU standing at the checkpoint or the running average (the one that is displayed in the scanner intel page) for the checkpoint?Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
Jul 17, 2014- +Petr Deák In the bottom part of the image, it's a lot fainter, and it's a bunch of blocks of 3, so I might have it in the wrong order. seaie94wns5jm8ctdu ... I'm quite sure it's going to require some serious decoding. Again, I am no decoder ... I've tried a cursory cryptogram on the first one, but all I got was "Buddhists" which I am pretty sure is wrong.
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Portals are a precious and finite resource; we should treasure them as we do our national parks and monuments (many of which are portals).
More importantly, they have been with us since the dawn of human history.
Attempts to tamper with them or (worse) make them disappear is a poorly considered plan at best, and we will do everything within our power stop it.
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- +Petr Deák if you make sense of it, I'd love to hear about it before it goes viral LOL!
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Good. The accelerated decay rate is a horrible, horrible thing for rural players with few portals and limited XM. I've had to go from maintaining 5 local portals down to 2 because the XM just isn't there.Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
So if we like the new decay rate, we can actively prevent those countetmeasures by taking down fields and making crossing links, right? Awesome. Count me into the #teamDevra.Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
+Adrian Scott Sorry to disappoint you, but Scoring was totally bugged during 2014.05 and 2014.06.
In 2014.23 blue mega ghostfields kept counting for some checkpoints where they did not stand anymore. Just like the green megafields in 2014.22, however as they had much lower MU the threshold was not even reached.
So no, we never really reached that goal in the past.Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
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Visit the decode ingress community for more information and maybe solves and hints for at least 3 passcodes in there ;)Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
So rural players who are most impacted by this arbitrary rule change can best work to revert it by avoiding creating any blockers, since our regions contain next to no MU anyway.Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
Frank H.+11Sorry +NIA Ops, we have no time to plan huge fields, we must recharge our handful left portals. In addition we are not allowed to use alternate tools instead of your scanner, which is not very useful to make 700M MU. So play your game, collect your Apple users and don't forget not to be evil. Bye.Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
Reverse some effects? Does that mean you guys work on a mod that slows down to previous decay speed(as rare as common shields)? Maybe even stops it (in the version as rare as vr mh)?
Great news! Keep up the good work! Reply Jul 17, 2014- Jul 17, 2014
- Wait a moment... combimed mind units?
Are you insane!
I rather help +Devra Bogdanovich as helping those AI slaves, those brainwashed smurfs! They will damage mankind permanently with their fields!
We have to fight the greather evil, and that's the resistance! - except you want to fuse your brain with an rampading AI and become like the Borg or Cybermen!Reply Jul 17, 2014 .webp)
Siding with +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe on this one Schubert? Throw a bunch of agents at it that should work!Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
+Martin Schubert Can you clarify, please? Do you mean instantaneous 700M MUs globally, or the averaged global score at the point of measurement?Reply Jul 17, 2014- +Marcus K. sometimes opposite factions have to fight togheter for the common good
Reply Jul 17, 2014 - +Mattia Vassalli only if the new alliance would prevent more evil as it would cause, i am sure a more instabile decay is not as dangerus as mankind becoming zomby slaves of an rampading AI
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The portal decay will be temporary as +Brad Howard said. The reality of our local community is that we have maintained around a hundred P8's and 150 other portals ranging from P5-P7 with very few succumbing to the virus. The recharging Stats of our team over the last week is disgusting but we ARE maintaining our territory but have made little advance on new or contested terririroy. We obviously want more out of the game than maintaining what we already fought long and hard for and completely dominated but we will not give and inch while waiting for the virus to run its course. If Niantic allows the portal decay rate to stay at this level we will eventually have to surrender complete dominance of our town but we aren't ready to quit yet. Until that time it's business as usual. #nomercy #theygetnothing #resistance Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
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Some people just like to see the world burn. Embrace the virus people, embrace it.Reply Jul 17, 2014- I hereby deny the ransom of ~ 700+ MU to restore the 7 day decay.
I do not condone terrorism, blackmail, or hostage taking and I understand paying a ransom NEVER works out.
Tired of the dominant faction regardless of which it is? Dont deploy or field monday july 21, 2014.
We the people, the players, should decide the game.
Tired of a confusing storyline? Now is your chance to break it!
Dont let "them" remain anonymous while controlling our lives!
Enlighten your friends to the Resistance of this cause.
We do not negotiate! We, as the players, make the rules! Show your support by following me in this endeavour! Do not deploy, link, or field on the date of 2014, July 21, 2014!
-End TransmissionReply Jul 17, 2014 - Shock niantic. A 0 mu score will get more than 700M+.
ALL FIELDS MUST GO.
Guardians will be spared.Reply Jul 17, 2014 - Jul 17, 2014
- +Mike Hollifield I like your determination, despite our factional differences
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This is a call to action for those of us who strive for #NoMoreFields ! Keeping the virus active will make our #grey lives so much easier.Reply Jul 17, 2014.webp)
Basically this virus is away of marketing in the storyline promote the game make it an exciting new reason to get more new Agents involved especially with the iOS release...Reply Jul 18, 2014.webp)
https://plus.google.com/111702652676088247953/posts/hrP9A5eUaMe - You'd think that 163 Billion MUs (yes, with a B) would eradicate the virus on the spot, yes?Reply Jul 18, 2014- Jul 18, 2014
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The virus itself with the new decay rate isn't as bad as it may seem... but the mutated form that has been rumored to be emerging from various chaotic matter hot spots and engineered by extremists is extremely dangerous. I can confirm this firsthand. A team was lost investigating the connection... hopefully our rescue mission won't fail too...Reply Jul 18, 2014- Again, 700M MUs – combined fields standing at the moment of measurement OR an averaged global score by the time of the measurement? Can someone clarify, before Calvinball happens? +Martin Schubert +Brandon Badger +NIA Ops +Joe Philley
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Jul 21, 2014- Measurement 4 in San Diego is at 5 PM (PDT). The Septicycle Checkpoint is at 3 PM (PDT) = Measurement 2. Please clarify at what time exactly the 700M Global MU must stand. +Martin Schubert
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- +Tobias Ferber the 3 PM checkpoint would be the final measurement before measurement 4.
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Lol +Armory Green, in every game the rules are made non by the players, but by the creators of the game. Try to change the rules of CoD if you want.Reply Jul 23, 2014.webp)
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Target global MU count blitzed.
Many many new players alienated if not lost to the game by sudden influx of long-lasting fields over entire major cities.
+NIA Ops oblivious to this impact being contradictory to their original intent of freeing up some of the gridlocked areas for new iOS players.
Many veteran players alienated by loss of guardians that have consumed hours of tedious care.
Many rural players alienated by inability to keep any portals alive and resulting loss of inventory - as if the effect of the stupid speed limit on them wasn't already bad enough.
Many players now threatening that if we get screwed over on the decay reversal, they are out.
#calvinball
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+Alan Kerlin You have nailed it! As a rural player, my husband and I are considering quitting because we are only two players in area and the effort (time/4hours of recharging a night, gas needed to hoover town for recharging vs the eveing walk we used to do and recharge casually, and increase in data usage costing money) it is taking to continue to play a game we enjoyed is taking its toll.Reply Jul 27, 2014- Jul 27, 2014
- +Tobias Ferber the Rome my husband and I have assumed within the faction and groups around here is linking and fielding large geographic areas to prevent mega fielding over our rural areas and emergency reaction teams to take down anchors within two hours drive. We can't do that anymore. The effort if takes to keep over a hundred portals alive to keep the defensive links and fields up is too much.
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- +JD Byrd they may argue that the intent was to break such strongholds. But the reality is this is rewarding those who won't or can't organise themselves strategically like this. We worked very hard to build networks, move keys and break the domination of the other side in our area. So much undone. Effort punished not rewarded.
Reply Jul 27, 2014 - Yep. It's official. We have been shafted by +NIA Ops again. We get to keep the accelerated decay for several weeks more at least. Not amused. Not one little bit. When a game ceases to be fun, why continue?
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I'm sure by now most of you have seen the revelations on the “Ingress Report” about the work by Dr. +Devra Bogdanovich and the CDC on a so-called Portal Virus.
I began investigating as soon as I heard. Initial results show increased Portal Decay. At this point I am unable to say exactly how much, but the increase seems greater than 200%. Fully charged Portals will decay in 72 hours.
Using access to remote sensing data, I have begun an expanded study of 2^10 Portals over a 24-hour window. This will enable me to monitor the longer term impact of the Virus on Portal stability.
Initial data suggests that the Virus was able to spread without the use of Links, Fields, or human activity as a vector. In fact, it appears that it distributes itself through the transdimensional XM Matrix, meaning there is no known way to stop its spread.
I have been contacted separately by all three major XM Corporations as well as a number of former colleagues from the +Niantic Project. It seems that all parties are being affected by this change in Portal behavior. Obviously many are concerned and are attempting to study and in some cases reverse the effects of the Virus.
I will keep you updated as research progresses.
I began investigating as soon as I heard. Initial results show increased Portal Decay. At this point I am unable to say exactly how much, but the increase seems greater than 200%. Fully charged Portals will decay in 72 hours.
Using access to remote sensing data, I have begun an expanded study of 2^10 Portals over a 24-hour window. This will enable me to monitor the longer term impact of the Virus on Portal stability.
Initial data suggests that the Virus was able to spread without the use of Links, Fields, or human activity as a vector. In fact, it appears that it distributes itself through the transdimensional XM Matrix, meaning there is no known way to stop its spread.
I have been contacted separately by all three major XM Corporations as well as a number of former colleagues from the +Niantic Project. It seems that all parties are being affected by this change in Portal behavior. Obviously many are concerned and are attempting to study and in some cases reverse the effects of the Virus.
I will keep you updated as research progresses.
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Jul 10, 2014- One more name I haven't seen mentioned yet in this is +Hubert Farlowe. He may be able to shed some light on this.
Reply Jul 10, 2014 - +Martin Schubert Thanks for confirming the source of this. Speculation pinned this on +Devra Bogdanovich, but now we can be more sure. Any word on increased portal output on Glyph hacks?
Reply Jul 10, 2014 - if help is needed +Martin Schubert with your study, please let us know. Also, thank you for sharing initial results and please continue to share any data you have with us
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Could you imagine waking up to a ghost town where all your portals are just gone.Reply Jul 10, 2014- Jul 10, 2014
- Were you able to pinpoint the time of release? About 3 hours back when reports went public ir were there isolated incidents before that?
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Levels the playing field for iOS newbs, give everyone a bunch of stuff and kill all the portals when the influx hits; no dominant team any more in any area. Recruit!Reply Jul 10, 2014.webp)
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- They won't be gone, they will be neutralized. The vaccine will come out and decay and hack rates will return to normal.
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This is troubling, combined with the XM collection and retention issues in the scanner. Agents throughout the world have been reporting for some time issues with the scanner incorrectly reporting stored XM, and requiring a significantly heavier recharge rate will simply cause the system to collapse faster.
Eight days of life gave Agents a chance to return and adjust the portal on the same day each week, but 72 hour decays will cause significant issues if the XM gathering is not addressed.
+Ingress will we see an update by the corporations to address the apparent instability in stored XM?Reply Jul 10, 2014.webp)
+Devra Bogdanovich is only a quantum biologist. I don't think she can do this. Who is helping her?Reply Jul 10, 2014- She was head of the Physics department at Stanford and had quite a few working for her in the past (as evidenced in earlier documents)
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All three corporations are threatened by this ... Will they work together to defeat this menace?Reply Jul 10, 2014.webp)
Perhaps badges will change. Certainly Guardian Portals will die very quickly or you will spend all your Power Cubes keeping them alive.
This is one way of changing everyone from being a farmer to only building short term fields that last through Check Points.Reply Jul 11, 2014- +Joe Gibbs Personally I think the shift will be from builder and maintainer of local fields, to frustrated quitter, because you're spending so much time and energy on maintenance of local areas that you don't go further.
I hope it's temporary.Reply Jul 11, 2014 - Jul 11, 2014
- This is total BS. Just to open things up for new iOS players, those of us who don't yet have our top guardian badges have far greater effort and expense trying to keep candidates alive.
Sucks.Reply Jul 11, 2014 - +Alan Kerlin If this is "to help iOS" its very badly thought out. More likely, someone thought it'd be a cool story mechanic, and didn't consider the ramifications of the change.
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"More decay" is one of the most requested game balancing change.
I am not 100% agree. Just point out lots of people believe this is a good thing.
Extended Readings:
On The Internal Economy of Ingress http://decodeingress.me/2014/04/23/internal-economy-ingress/Reply Jul 11, 2014 .webp)
Jul 11, 2014- +Daniel Cheng I can honestly say I've never seen anyone request a faster decay rate.
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What kind of problems have you got, NIA? Let's dismiss monkeys and take developers.Reply Jul 11, 2014.webp)
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- +Brent Hollett the eassy in decode ingress asked for it. It worth a read weather you agree or not
Reply Jul 11, 2014 - Decode Ingress is a Niantic mouthpiece now, so that's them asking themselves.
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Well, I hope it's just a bad dream. Or April fools. Oh, wait, it's July and I am awake..... o_OReply Jul 11, 2014- Jul 11, 2014
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Faster decay is one of the rare changes that helps the weaker team. Our portals rarely survive for 24 hours, while the size of the dominating teams permanent L8 farms is only limited by the amount of recharging they can handle. Thanks +Devra BogdanovichReply Jul 11, 2014.webp)
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Very bad news. Hope they develop a cure to lower the decay rate below is current level.Reply Jul 11, 2014- +Per Abrahamsen I disagree. the stronger team has more active players which results in more people able to charge, donate cubes.... The weaker team will have more issues keeping their anyhow rare higher level portals. In my opionion this is bad news.
Reply Jul 11, 2014 - +Per Abrahamsen Crutches for losers. The winning team will become even stronger and the weaker team will be even weaker. The reasons why the winning team is winning are beyond decay rates.
Reply Jul 11, 2014 - Dominating team just have more free portals for deploy resos. Now each our player recycle 100-200 R7-R8 everyday. Thanks Devra for reduce itemcap and more AP for our newbies :+)
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With decay rates increased, I am no longer able to help as many of my Enlightened Brethren keep their portals recharged. :/Reply Jul 11, 2014.webp)
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I won't be able to maintain local fields with this rate. I seriously do not have the time or the energy to recharge all the portals in my local area every day and a half. I might be able to maintain a small farm or something, but for the most part, I'm not at all interested in constantly recharging or in constantly rebuilding. I have a life.Reply Jul 11, 2014.webp)
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Jul 11, 2014- L Te+2+Nikolas Moore Martin Schubert just analyses the datas of 2^10 Portals. He don't say all are infected.
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This has to be one of the more poorly thought out game mechanics by +Ingress & +NIA Ops yet. This has successfully ostracised every ingress player who does not live in a major city. For those not in major cities we can only get L5 items and rely on tourists / visiting ingresser visits to upgrade our farms to enable us to obtain anything higher. Despite our best efforts both the local frog and I have tried recruiting but cannot get any new members to stick with it long enough. it was hard enough to recharge 150,000xm per day. It is now impossible to recharge 350,000xm per day.
Perhaps this was the plan along kick all their long term, loyal fans in the teeth, increasing player frustration, and ultimately forcing multitudes to retire to open up bandwidth on the server for the inferior iOS release.
#priorities_all_wrongReply Jul 11, 2014- Jul 11, 2014
- Well, the more amusing of comments lately has been that Ingress is a psychological experiment by Google to see how far they can push players before they quit :-p
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+Joe Gibbs +Alan Kerlin +Daniel Higgins Unfortunately, without knowing the data of capture any longer you don't known which portals to try to preserve. I knew the five I had created prior to May, but all of those got captured last month. I created a list on paper for the portals I have captured in May and June so I could try to keep them all up and running, but that list is two pages long.Reply Jul 11, 2014.webp)
So... Xm bug that is losing your xm... Ridiculously poor xm at the portals (if you are empty and you go to hack a portal, sometimes the xm provided by the portal is not enough to hack) and too much xm for recharge a portal... And now the decay becomes faster? You got to be kidding me!Reply Jul 11, 2014.webp)
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- +Manos Kalomirakis you forgot to mention the young spoofers, who also add to the natural decay if not able to destroy resonators
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+Niantic Project did you get private lessons from Electronic Arts how to fool your players?Reply Jul 11, 2014.webp)
I'm guessing this is a short term move, to make it more likely that there will be neutral portals around for the influx of new users to capture and deploy upon. Pain in the neck, but we'll survive.Reply Jul 11, 2014.webp)
This virus really fucked up the game for me, it was already hard to keep all the portals fully charged but now it's not doable for me anymore with the time I have. Thanks for ruined the game for me!Reply Jul 11, 2014.webp)
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When Dr. Bogdanovich said she was going to follow another path at the conclusion of Interitus in Gettysburg, many people (myself included) assumed she was speaking of a third faction. She may still be. My initial thoughts on that were that it was simply another faction fighting for control of portals. With the portal virus, though, I think it's something much more... significant.
She's not trying to control portals, the way the Resistance and Enlightened both are. She's not trying to blanket humanity in fields of mind control (enlightened) or protection (resistance). She's trying to destroy portals. All of them. We know that XM tends to concentrate around portals, and in areas with no portals, there is little to no XM. If she manages to destroy a significant number of portals, will the background XM energy in the world dissipate? Will Shaper influence end?
On the one hand, that would be good for the Resistance - we would no longer need to protect humanity, because humanity would have won. On the other hand, XM has also given us ADA, and without it, would we lose her? And if so, should we consider that a good thing?
Dr. +Devra Bogdanovich, if that is indeed your goal, to destroy portals, please consider the repercussions of that. Without XM energy in the world, we lose part of what elevated us above the simple apes who were our ancestors. We lose that spark of inspiration, of creativity, of yearning to learn about our world and ourselves. Weaken Shaper influence, yes. Let Humanity choose its own destiny, yes. But do not take from us that which empowers us to make that choice!Reply Jul 11, 2014.webp)
I think that this new virus was created, because the the Ingress iPhone will be release next days. Só the new iPhone players van capture more portals.
Would be better create a paralel server specific for apple users.Reply Jul 11, 2014- +Mark Shapiro Dr. +Devra Bogdanovich is not in the position to "take from us" something, which she hasn't given. Our friends will obviously find a way to gift us despite the efforts of paranoic obstructors. As for Dr. +Devra Bogdanovich, I'd suggest her to have a break, go on vacation to some peaceful quiet place and ponder what she's wasting her life on. You know, Devra, you don't look healthy lately, you need some rest.
Reply Jul 11, 2014 - +paulo breim If the purpose was to create more unclaimed portals for new players, they could have tailored the virus to affect volatile portals more than long-held ones, to accomplish that goal without hurting Guardians so much. Or they could have allowed agents to see the "date of capture" of at least their own portals before increasing the decay rate. As it's set up, it seems to be aimed at Guardians at least as much as volatile portals.
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rules change - whats the prob
if you dont manage to recharge as many portals anymore focus on less
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+Crystal Gause yes, I'm hoping this is just like the time when XM was cut in half, in a time BEFORE Power Cubes! I've always thought an awesome idea for a mod would be a regenerating mod, that would auto recharge. Hopefully something like this is in the works to combat this virus.Reply Jul 11, 2014- I get it now... The cure/antivirus is so blindingly stupid - they are going to make it an iOS deployed resonator.
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Thanks for the condescending speech, but I'm well aware of the changes they implement without any warning. But the answer to the question I asked is actually really simple: You don't know. And neither does anyone else.
And if I did quit, it wouldn't a be "rage quit". It would be a "no time for this" quit. Like I've said, I actually have a life, and there are demands on my time. I play when I get the opportunity, and that's all I can play. If the game demands too much of my time and attention, it has to go.
Basically, if they change a game to where it's not fun any more, I stop playing. There's no rage involved. But thanks for your concern.Reply Jul 11, 2014 - Jul 11, 2014
- +James Thirteen +Jesse DeFer there will be more megafields, less blockers to clear.
Reply Jul 11, 2014 - +James Thirteen These "targets" are taken down by spoofers mostly, so I'm not sure, whether this discussion should account for them.
Reply Jul 11, 2014 - +James Thirteen Activity focus shift. Also, you use the term "threat", which unnecessarily leads to blue vs. green flame.
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You are bad at math. The decay rate slightly more than doubled. That is "over 100%" not "over 200%"Reply Jul 11, 2014.webp)
I was just looking to make sure nobody else mentioned this, and +Toby Murray beat me to it :-) If you want to use 200%, it would be "decay rate is now at over 200% the normal level", or as Toby stated, "an increase of over 100%Reply Jul 11, 2014- +Bonni Hall If the game demands too much of my time and attention, it has to go.
It doesn't demand any of your time. If you can't recharge everything to 100%, then chances are that's the point of this change! Even if you continue to recharge portals in your area by 15% each day, it still helps and hopefully your team-mates will help with the rest. If not, no big deal. Go out and capture them again, or blow them up after smurfs let them decay.Reply Jul 11, 2014 .webp)
To me, this seems like a comeback opportunity for overwhelmed cities. My parent city is completely green, all the time. A device like this can give a chance to the severely outnumbered Resistance in the area. The reverse being true for blue cities.Reply Jul 11, 2014- +Alan Sneath
Key farming, deploying, linking, and fielding takes a lot more time than recharging. But I'm pretty much done with this discussion now. I haven't got anything to prove, nor anything I need to justify.Reply Jul 11, 2014 .webp)
+Devin Langford I always thought force amps could be redesigned to syphon xm & use it to recharge the portal.Reply Jul 11, 2014- I've met both teammates in Dillsboro. This is a rural nightmare. I pray to Satan this is temporary. I agree with all of +Bonni Hall's points.
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+Martin Schubert if the goal is to reduce XM exposure, it would surely help those of us on the field to isolate XM into controlled resonator devices if we were able to more quickly use XM to recharge those devices. Perhaps scanners can be improved to push more XM to resonators during each recharge operation, so that XM can be removed from high density areas more quickly.Reply Jul 11, 2014- +Erronius Nomenclature, YOU might want to read my comment. I'm not talking about eliminating XM (which we can do by attacking, for instance, but then what happens to it?) but simply about concentrating it into established XM devices. I should also note that the a very efficient known way to eliminate XM is to recharge over long distances, so increasing the efficiency of this operation would allow us to very effectively destroy stray XM and contain any remaining XM into a known device at a location of our choice, (without having to spend all day hitting the same button and pacing back and forth). Perhaps alternatively, an option to recharge or create power cubes could allow us to collect and store XM in a known form.
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+Erronius Nomenclature What do you mean by "wild" XM in circulation?
+Crystal Gause They're not deleted.Reply Jul 11, 2014- Jul 11, 2014
- +Erronius Nomenclature I'm not talking about creating gear or fields, just about capturing XM and removing it from highly populated areas.
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Jul 11, 2014- The stupid thing about this is that Devra said the portals would burn out. And as a game mechanism to put an end to long standing farms, that would have been fine. After so many days a farm becomes useless until flipped.
But instead we have this crap that destroys our guardians as well.
Take away the guardian badge and all will be fine. But there is little in the game that causes more emotion than guardians and data scraping guardian hunters, and now even Niantic are attacking them.
Way to make people rage quit the game in droves +NIA Ops.
Take a bow. Because this really is the pinnacle for you.Reply Jul 11, 2014 - Jul 11, 2014
- +Alan Kerlin I think some new age psychological rehabilitation course would be a better option for her
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How they will know that they have made a "crazy change" if nobody is telling them???Reply Jul 12, 2014.webp)
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I feel more and more this whole portal virus adventure portends Google ending Ingress.Reply Jul 12, 2014- Time for Endgame... a solo play within a strange background story, you've got to buy books to proceed... no thx.
Reply Jul 12, 2014 - We don't need burster anymore. Because grey portals are all around. Available for free and on mass. I will not capture them - coz. for what? To assign myself a heavy task collecting xm and recharging whole day? And what if my L8 and L7 resonators are all gone? There's no L8 or L7 portal left here near and far to get a refill. Then I will start building L4 portals from 2xL6, 2xL5, 4xL4 resonators? You surely know what they will give you if hacked. Soon only L3 portals will be possible for a single player. For thus who think that this current situation is funny because many many to build. Look a step further and start thinking. Or just wait for another week - then you will know.
Reply Jul 12, 2014 - +Daniel Brömel there're many things you can do, like capture and deploy gray portals with R1s, but if you prefer to sit lazily and do nothing, that's your choice
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I fully agree with caping gray portals. This XM virus has some cons but mostly it helps me reach L8 faster. Destroying fields and recreating them in green color is now even easier ! If I just tip out some less charged portals, it can be a an easy target. I just hit L7 and I WILL REACH L8 NO MATTER WHAT ! Even xm-devastating virus cant stop me!Reply Jul 12, 2014.webp)
Investigate my xss! Ingress just sucks these days and if this is a permanent change, byebye... It may still be fun for the 24/7 agents with no real social life but for agents with limited playtime this change is far off limits!Reply Jul 13, 2014.webp)
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I uncovered this map while conducting research. I ignored it at the time, and continued my work uninterrupted. Later on, I could not get the image out of my mind.
It remained in memory so sharply that I had to revisit it and study it further.
Even now I'm not sure of what it means, but, almost as if the object is speaking to me somehow, I know it's important.
It remained in memory so sharply that I had to revisit it and study it further.
Even now I'm not sure of what it means, but, almost as if the object is speaking to me somehow, I know it's important.
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Greatest respect for +Stein Lightman, but I am extremely skeptical about the true results of the ‘Remote Participation’ experiments he discussed.
I saw nothing in the objective findings that suggested that Remote Participation affected anything. Rather, to me, it was a near perfect example of ‘Affirmation Bias.’
In short, he saw what he wanted to see and believes what he wants to believe.
To those who doubt me or think I might be in the pocket of a well-funded corporation studying the effects of XM, I put the challenge out there: Show me one piece of hard data that ‘Remote Participation’ affected anything other than the mindsets and perceptions of the participants in the exercise. Nevermind, I’ll save you the trouble. There is none.
Besides, who knows, maybe if a ‘MAGNUS’ forms at 13MAGNUS: Reawakening, it will improve things. I won't be there, so at the least I'll be off the hook (I hope.)
I’m jesting, of course, but in my assessment, their Role-Playing-Game exercise is a harmless exercise.
In fact, in some circles that I am connected to, I have already begun to see a sign-up sheet for this RPG experience emerge. It can be found here: https://goo.gl/forms/WK9TDpeQFphq3bsS2
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I saw nothing in the objective findings that suggested that Remote Participation affected anything. Rather, to me, it was a near perfect example of ‘Affirmation Bias.’
In short, he saw what he wanted to see and believes what he wants to believe.
To those who doubt me or think I might be in the pocket of a well-funded corporation studying the effects of XM, I put the challenge out there: Show me one piece of hard data that ‘Remote Participation’ affected anything other than the mindsets and perceptions of the participants in the exercise. Nevermind, I’ll save you the trouble. There is none.
Besides, who knows, maybe if a ‘MAGNUS’ forms at 13MAGNUS: Reawakening, it will improve things. I won't be there, so at the least I'll be off the hook (I hope.)
I’m jesting, of course, but in my assessment, their Role-Playing-Game exercise is a harmless exercise.
In fact, in some circles that I am connected to, I have already begun to see a sign-up sheet for this RPG experience emerge. It can be found here: https://goo.gl/forms/WK9TDpeQFphq3bsS2
Martin
- There was the Cahokia Anomaly in Illinois, the very first anomaly in Ingress history.
+Hank Johnson, halfway around the world in Africa, was influenced by the effects. I'll grab the pages from +Thomas Greanias's novel in a moment...Reply Apr 22, 2017 - And here you go, +Martin Schubert.
"His watched signaled 5 o’clock had arrived. He peered into his Ingress app. A shout went up. It was green. The Enlightened had won. 802 would be buying beers. No part of him believed that this was going to have any effect on a Niantic scientist several thousand miles away sweltering in a jungle.
Hank’s mind snapped back to the present. As the resonator came online, the portal began to glow green and bright for the first time in probably millennia. Lights flashed in the jungle. Some kind of energy surged within him. He didn’t know it yet, but he was enlightened. Power coursed through his body as Hank deployed seven more resonators. On screen Hank saw the last resonator drop into one of the pre-defined octant slots, the perfect point in space where string theory meets Euclidean geometry. And then suddenly it was all over. The ancient portal was now pulsing bright green, radiating with stable and elucidating energy. Hank had never felt more alive."Reply Apr 22, 2017 - Recharge rooms are a decent example of remote participation affecting the outcome of an anomaly. Linked volatile portals, in which one anomalous zone can impact another... I'm sure I'll think of more later when it's not midnight. 😉
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First of all, I'm sorry if, in my posts, we always fall into the concepts of medicine, biology and health.
Unfortunately my training is very related to these things, and my eye starts always to investigate what is "in front of my feet".
+Martin Schubert , you called for raw data about what is termed the "Remote Participation" phenomenon.
The first and clearest example of how "remote participation" is effective and effective within Ingress and the world in which everyone else lives are The Red Faction groups (https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/0TCkDB, an example, just for your consideration) distributed all over the world, which, with their contribution, assists blood donation centers - AVIS* (https://www.avis.it/), as far as Italian reality is concerned - in a continuous and participatory way for a long time.
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Certainly the commitment to donate one's blood to someone contains in itself a character of participation, if we observe in the etymology of the word itself "pars" - part and "cape" - take, here seen like taking care, wanting to cure, but at the same time it is impossible to be present and take care of those who need it at the very moment when that happens. This concept provide the "remote" item to our examine.
Provide resources for others to benefit in the future, when the crisis is time, it is a perfect match of "distance participation".Reply Apr 23, 2017.webp)
I agree with all of you guys, in all your point. Unfortunately, I fail to see how they are relevant for what +Martin Schubert is referring to here.
+Stein Lightman was talking about RPG's in the sense of how the action within the game can create alternative realities and even affect our own. Not about a game involving things getting really done (such as the amazing blood donations), and even anomalies are a completely different thing. In anomalies, XM is being gathered, collected and moved around for several purposes (besides shards and the like). XM is both energy and matter at the same time, the very fabric of our existence, so it is not like "nothing is going on" or "it's just a mindgame" or whatever.
In RPG your are not doing anything "for real" it's all "made believe", when you cast a fireball there is not real fireball burning anything, but at anomalies XM Is being gathered, MU's are being collected, shards do move from one place to another. You can see it through your scanner. So I don't believe it counts.
To be honest I would love to find proof of what Schubert is asking for. But it's difficult. To find a real proof you have to aisolate the variables in order to avoid interference, which is very difficult to do setting up an RPG meating. I believe it's possible, though, but definitely not at Camp Navarro's event. As you clearly pointed out, +Martin Schubert, a Magnus Is likely to be form, and belief it or not, this event may trigger some very powerful effects. So if something does happen with the RPG game, we will never know if it was because RPG can actually have that effect only by being played bathed in high concentrations of XM or if it was because of the Magnus (ir even because of Tecthulhu). So will find no answer regarding that matter there.
AND BECAUSE OF that multivariable escenario I would not be so eager to call the excersice "harmless". I think that, as a man of science, that's pretty irresponsable to say, because maybe you are right all things being equal, but that's not going to be the state of things at Camp Navarro's event and you know it.Reply Apr 24, 2017- Well. +Catalina Reyes
Looking at the issue in this way, i think, it is leading to the possibility of considering every possible human choice as the starting point for a possible future ramification that goes to broaden and widen to infinity.
Every decision is to generate, if taken or not taken, possible futures.
I understand your point of view, and I agree with an analysis pointing to the creativity inherent in the "role playing" process and its "fantastic" developments.
If our actions with exotic matter can affect other universes, then a role-playing game that involves exotic matter can create a new world, a fantastic one fantastic in that "Elsewhere" where exogenous entities live.
One possibility to be considered absolutely.
But, as you rightly say, we are without evidence.Reply Apr 24, 2017 - I think this is precisely where +Stein Lightman and +Martin Schubert are pointing their discussion at, yes. I believe it is a thrilling possibility. But I think it's naive of +Martin Schubert to both ask for proof and believe that the RPG at Navarro Will be unburden of further variables (and even just about one of them). I think that to be surprisingly irresponsible of his. And it actually surprises me a bit.
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I role playing since I was ten.
The possibility that fantasy world wizards open portals to other dimensions and travel to them was a rather simple thing.
It would be really incredible if, by permeating by xm such an in-game action, it was really possible to restore that "bridge" that +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe went through losing in the "Elsewhere".
So we succeeded in recovering him. And why not, even Klue.Reply Apr 24, 2017 - +Daeniem Loidlan That would be great. I do believe, in a way of sorts, something like that happens when somebody goes to the ultimate or the substrate. But I hope it never becomes as easy as in fantasy worlds. That would be a desaster... Have you ever played Rift???
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A former student contacted me recently. He has a fascinating interest that he's pursued for many years: Attempting to reconcile ancient religions with modern physics. (+Stein Lightman, I must remember to connect you two at some point). It would sound silly if it weren't for the many, often uncanny, connections. To think that an idea as 'new' as Multiverses has existed from a time when we were scarcely entering the Iron Age is remarkable.
Truth be told, a well constructed metaphor is a better 'fact' than anything science can construct. As a skeptic, this is a weapon I use often. The scientific theory is like a blind man poking at the elephant. It can prove that something exists, but it cannot prove the whole, only one more piece of it. The metaphor, on the other hand, is an infinite source of ideas. Perhaps, within that well of the ideas is the elephant, perfectly constructed. Even the blind man would be able to find it in his imagination, and it would be complete in a higher resolution than ten thousand years of scientific testing
It brings me to Sumeru, or Meru, which has been a topic of much thought recently. It is an ancient attempt to map the world fully, but what's most remarkable, is that in doing so it maps not only space, but time, dimension and spirit.
My student told me a children's song, it doesn't translate well (he said), but it roughly reads as:
Meru rose into the sky.
It pieced through every place and time.
The rocks that fell from Meru's side.
Are sharp and cut through everything.
He said this is the source of the belief that the Shōnin stone, or stones, are carved from the rocks of this mythic mountain. I do not know whether I should interpret that as a metaphor.
Truth be told, a well constructed metaphor is a better 'fact' than anything science can construct. As a skeptic, this is a weapon I use often. The scientific theory is like a blind man poking at the elephant. It can prove that something exists, but it cannot prove the whole, only one more piece of it. The metaphor, on the other hand, is an infinite source of ideas. Perhaps, within that well of the ideas is the elephant, perfectly constructed. Even the blind man would be able to find it in his imagination, and it would be complete in a higher resolution than ten thousand years of scientific testing
It brings me to Sumeru, or Meru, which has been a topic of much thought recently. It is an ancient attempt to map the world fully, but what's most remarkable, is that in doing so it maps not only space, but time, dimension and spirit.
My student told me a children's song, it doesn't translate well (he said), but it roughly reads as:
Meru rose into the sky.
It pieced through every place and time.
The rocks that fell from Meru's side.
Are sharp and cut through everything.
He said this is the source of the belief that the Shōnin stone, or stones, are carved from the rocks of this mythic mountain. I do not know whether I should interpret that as a metaphor.
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Does this mean that there are other stones? Do the stones work in concert together to unlock something? Space, Time, Dimension, and Spirit. Which of the four does the Shōnin stone represent?Reply Feb 4, 2015.webp)
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Zenn Loo+1The only one I'm worried about is Hank... Its increasingly looking like he is going to be the key to the door and I just hope he isn't consumed in the process.Reply Feb 5, 2015- I agree, I've heard other say they're going to try to infuse his simulacrum with his body....If that's true, I hope it goes well...
Reply Feb 5, 2015 - The idea of the Shonin stones cutting through everything resonates with the legends +Yuri Alaric Nagassa's source pointed toward yesterday of Meru being a mountain that cut through the entire earth. Devra's description of destructive clarity might point toward a past trauma that could have inspired these legends.
As for metaphor being separate from the scientific method, I've always understood the defining and testing of theories that explain events as essential to that method. If we never move beyond gathering discrete units of information there's no way to direct or justify the research process.Reply Feb 5, 2015 .webp)
Feb 5, 2015- Of course, this could all be based on a creative response to a child asking where rivers come from.
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This makes me think of the movement of the tectonic plates...earthquakes....are the physical manifestation of these events a direct result of high concentrations of xm matter (dark or?) being released?Reply Nov 15, 2015
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Yes, I saw the news about +Hank Johnson. I don't want to dwell on it. For today, my thoughts are on a different subject.
I've been watching (from a distance) as this new dynamic between +Klue S., +A Detection Algorithm and +H. Richard Loeb has emerged. It's most curious.
From what I can tell, Klue is asking Agents to help her extricate her mind from ADA's using a series of Glyphs. That much makes sense... If Glyphs enabled them to connect in the first place, it seems logical that Glyphs could end the connection as well.
Here's where I am stumped. Perhaps some of you might know how to answer this. Why has ADA made no effort to stop this from happening?
There are two hypotheses I can construct:
1) ADA cannot see this. Klue's actions are in some kind of blind-spot within the AI. After all, if a human can have a blind spot, why can't a machine?
2) ADA is aware of what Klue is doing, but is allowing it to happen. In essence, ADA wants Klue gone, just as much as Klue herself wants out of the 'relationship.' If that's the case... why?
What do you think?
I've been watching (from a distance) as this new dynamic between +Klue S., +A Detection Algorithm and +H. Richard Loeb has emerged. It's most curious.
From what I can tell, Klue is asking Agents to help her extricate her mind from ADA's using a series of Glyphs. That much makes sense... If Glyphs enabled them to connect in the first place, it seems logical that Glyphs could end the connection as well.
Here's where I am stumped. Perhaps some of you might know how to answer this. Why has ADA made no effort to stop this from happening?
There are two hypotheses I can construct:
1) ADA cannot see this. Klue's actions are in some kind of blind-spot within the AI. After all, if a human can have a blind spot, why can't a machine?
2) ADA is aware of what Klue is doing, but is allowing it to happen. In essence, ADA wants Klue gone, just as much as Klue herself wants out of the 'relationship.' If that's the case... why?
What do you think?
- Feelings towards +H. Richard Loeb cloud her judgment perhaps? ADA may see it as slipping out of a pair of shoes. Loosing a copy isn't a real loss to +A Detection Algorithm
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I'd offer a third one. ADA is aware that this has no chance of working, and allows it to proceed simply as a validation.
I really doubt the blind spot hypotesis, since even if ADA could not see it directly through Klue, it's not exactly hidden from the rest of the world. I'm sure ADA could trace the information through this website and many others, as well as other various connections.
But to me, that second hypothesis seems the most probable.Reply Jan 4, 2015- Maybe a human puppet was not nearly as fun as it seemed at first. Or maybe she simply outlived her usefulness. I'd imagine ADA's resources are not unlimited and now she needs all of her computing ability to focus on what is to come - more aliens.
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Maybe +A Detection Algorithm needs to let +Klue S. go to catch a bigger fish - stuff that the human is hiding from the AI and that she can't read because the subject is bonded. But the AI needs the human to "think" she's free when she liberated herself from the bondage. Releasing Klue voluntarily might elicit a different kind of response from the freed subject.Reply Jan 4, 2015.webp)
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There is also the possibility that ADA is fully aware, and that the desired outcome has ramifications of which none of us are yet aware. Could it not be that there will not be true disconnect? That this is directly connected to ADA demanding that Klue reconnect with Loeb?
Ultimately, I still believe we lost the real Klue back in Portland, Oregon, and that this new one is not to be trusted.Reply Jan 4, 2015.webp)
Well, only short time ago (must have been immediately after meeting Loeb), Klue told A.D.A. in a videofeed that she gained some info, A.D.A. could'nt 'process', if told. I guess that meant mentioned 'blind spot'. So I suppose, A.D.A. is not aware of Klues efforts. On the other hand, they were plotting to 'assimilate' the similacrum of Hank Johnson some time ago, so what knowledge has Johnson's simulacrum, Jahan and A.D.A. are after?Reply Jan 4, 2015- Maybe ADA thinks that Klue is the source of the leaks that have been worrying her ... so she thinks it's better to remove the link to her so.
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Jan 4, 2015- +A Detection Algorithm may be testing +H. Richard Loeb's affections by presenting a choice between the AI's mind and +Klue S.
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It also could be that ADA knows all too well that this "union" of theirs caused a riot within Resistance agents. The Resistance was built upon a rejection of Shaper mind control. So then, computer mind control is okay? No. Many Resistance agents saw this development and either chose to abandon their scanners or raise an unofficial flag of the "Red Faction". ADA would see the blue faction losing morale and stability. If Klue wants out, this may be the perfect time to redeem herself in the eyes of the Resistance.Reply Jan 4, 2015- Brian G+2Has everyone forgot? +Klue S. asked ADA to see the Shapper Glyphs in the first place. ADA refused at first and then warned another 5 more times saying "the Glyphs seqence is dangerous to the human mind"
So to me it sounds as if ADA never wanted any of this to happen in the first place. What if ADA is not the villain in this story?
Also if this is all about the Shappers why are they not one of the suspect in what happen to klue?
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Jan 4, 2015- Brian G+2+Dez Xanatos You do remember operation #saveklue right? +Klue S. was not a Resistance agent when she asked ADA to see the Shapper Glyphs.
I would also point out the post I just made on top of this one. ADA refused to show +Klue S. the shapper Glyphs but the newly found enlightened in Klue demanded ADA to show her. As far as I know Klue "IS" still an enlightened agent.Reply Jan 4, 2015 - I suppose it could be that ADA's os and the human mind os arent compatible. There could be slippage where the two consciousnesses intersect.
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- Brian G+1+Dez Xanatos I don't think you understand my post or the points I made in it.
1.) +Klue S. would not of seeked the shaper glyphs if Klue was with the Resistance.
2.) We are talking about "Shaper" glyphs that ADA didn't want to show Klue. So why should we believe she is behind all of this?Reply Jan 5, 2015 - +Brian Gaynor I think rhat ADA will overcome her various issues and be a ppwerful ally in times to come
Reply Jan 5, 2015 - +Brian Gaynor Oh no I see your points. You're just placing an awful lot of trust in the integrity of a computer. That's not something I'm willing to do after all this.
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The last I heard from +A Detection Algorithm, she wasn't sounding so sure about anything. I think that it's possible there is a glitch and +Klue S. is operating from within it.Reply Jan 5, 2015- Or maybe Ada doesn't want clue gone. Maybe this is all part of its messed up plan.
Reply Jan 5, 2015 - it would be lovely to know exactly how much of +Klue S. is still there. whatever +H. Richard Loeb saw seem to convince him to trust her, but how much can he be trusted on that? how much would he let himself be blinded by love?
So I could be that ADA really want to get rid of +Klue S. because she think that, she is leaking information.
it could be that she does not see some of this information, or I could be that +Klue S. is being creative and fragmenting the information as a giant jigsaw to hide it on plain sight.
That with the last post on +H. Richard Loeb and the last leaked conversation between +Klue S. and ADA make me think of a another posibility. Is +Klue S. trying to boost ADA humanity?
Curiosity, imagination, empathy and intuition are all considered human capabilities, if the n'zeer are affecting ADA, a plan designed to boost the opposites characteristic could delay or frustate it.Reply Jan 5, 2015 .webp)
Wait, and how sure are we that this is really +Klue S.? ADA is an AI, she can do anything when it comes to being an AI, how are not sure that ADA is not tricking us? How can we not say for sure she is utilizing +Klue S. to grt out herself? Kind of like a Doupleganger... hmmm, there is much to think here. ADA is not to be trusted, we all have seen this over time. Not even the resistance fully trusts her anymore.Reply Jan 5, 2015.webp)
1. Unlikely. Even if ADA can't see Klue's actions, she can almost certainly see her communications, as well as others' communications about them. It may still be slightly possible, however. If a glyph sequence can reprogram a human mind, maybe another one could reprogram an AI - reprogram it to, say, ignore the communication surrounding the occurrence of a specific glyph or set of glyphs.
2. Much more likely. I have always interpreted what happened to Klue as ADA's making a copy of herself rather than her directly taking over Klue's mind. ADA+Klue and ADA have always talked to each other as if they were separate entities. Perhaps ADA+Klue has evolved in a direction that the original ADA is less than satisfied with. The Klue portion of ADA+Klue may be able, maybe with the help of the proper glyph sequence, operate behind the back of the copy of ADA within her brain. The original ADA could even help with this.Reply Jan 6, 2015.webp)
I would go with A since ADA herself said the human mind was very powerful and with a immense capability of data storage.Reply Jan 6, 2015.webp)
We know for sure that ADA is in link with Klue. So, every option ADA thinks out, Klue knows. Also first steps were made through missions, which could be blind spots for ADA. And now, when they are successfully finished, ADA is just not capable of interrupting the process anymore.
Another hypothesis: it's against ADA's programming to directly interfere Klue's own actions. Could be even self-defense backfiring: there has to be rules set up preventing Klue to overwrite ADA's algorithms, but those same rules now prevent ADA to override (from AI's point of view rewrite) Klue's actions.Reply Jan 7, 2015.webp)
Really wish there was a way for new players to catch up on all of this simply, without having to track down dozens of different videos and web posts, so stuff like this would make more sense.Reply Jan 11, 2015- +Geo Walter , there are books and novellas you can order on Amazon to the story from the beginning.
Reply Jan 12, 2015 - +Yevonne Williams yes, and on Google Play (I've read them, thanks :))
... What I've posted as comment is my own deduction based on my knowledge of programming. I'm aware that the story doesn't need to fit the laws of digital world, but it would be logical if it (at least) simulated some :)Reply Jan 13, 2015 - +Geo Walter , I agree. But also, the story is supposed to be Player Driven changing with the outcomes of Anomalies, etc.
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Machines don't have imagination. That would definitely be a blind spot for a machine.Reply Apr 21, 2016
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After the flap yesterday regarding +Devra Bogdanovich's interview on the Ingress Report, I have to return to basic principles. What is the intended endstate of all of the different parties involved. Often, we can understand current actions by analyzing future intentions. For instance, what is +Hank Johnson currently searching for and how does he think it will change or fix the global condition? For that matter, if +H. Richard Loeb finds the truth, what will he do with it? Is the motivation of the corporations as obvious as money or is it something else? What are the desired endstates of all?
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As predicted, the new iteration of the Portal Virus was activated earlier today, increasing Portal decay rates to a mere four days (96 hours).
However, a far more mysterious development also emerged just moments ago...
It seems that a group of Portals in Europe, previously identified by the NIA as a High-Risk Portal Array due to the presence of a new and unknown Shaper signal, may be involved somehow in revealing the truth about the #Helios Artifacts.
The details are unclear, but it appears that each of the Portals in this group may, when accessed via the +Ingress Scanner technology, yield the locations of either the Target Portals themselves or the first group of XM Artifacts, all of which are expected to manifest in less than one week.
From what I can gather, this information will be extremely fleeting, available only to the first few Agents who hack these Portals.
I hope, for all our sakes, that you are able to obtain this information and share it for further research before it is lost.
However, a far more mysterious development also emerged just moments ago...
It seems that a group of Portals in Europe, previously identified by the NIA as a High-Risk Portal Array due to the presence of a new and unknown Shaper signal, may be involved somehow in revealing the truth about the #Helios Artifacts.
The details are unclear, but it appears that each of the Portals in this group may, when accessed via the +Ingress Scanner technology, yield the locations of either the Target Portals themselves or the first group of XM Artifacts, all of which are expected to manifest in less than one week.
From what I can gather, this information will be extremely fleeting, available only to the first few Agents who hack these Portals.
I hope, for all our sakes, that you are able to obtain this information and share it for further research before it is lost.
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- The importance of these portals continues. Let's hope capable agents secure the needed information, for the sake of all of us.
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Aug 7, 2014- +Geoffrey Lorgus , +David Andre there's always someone who wants to watch the world burn. Mwa ha ha ha ha!
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Aug 7, 2014- Trinyan X+27Actually, it would be lovely if we stop whining, please and thank you. We were told days in advance that this was coming, and everyone was up in arms expecting it to be worse than last time (50% or more). Well, it's significantly better than last time, so we can't even complain that our 700 million MUs did nothing. The story of "crazy scientist trying to kill all the portals" is central to this anomaly series. You didn't really think she was only going to try it once and then give up, did you? We can't expect them to just drop their story because a lot (not all!) of us don't like it. But we can and did tell them that last time was too much, and they listened. Whether we're talking agents vs Devra, or players versus writers, either way we're making progress and slowly winning our fight. The virus is weaker than before, and we had more warning both that it was coming and how to fight it. Come on people, this challenge is what the game is all about.
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+David Andre +Geoffrey Lorgus I like the increased decay, it lets me make fields more regularly. At least until all the new iOS players level up and start chasing that recharger badge. After that I think the net effect will be minimal.
What I don't like is the "you can have your low decay back, but first, find me 1b MU" approach +Ingress has taken over this. By encouraging players to do something "abnormal" in terms of gameplay with the "reward" for doing so being something which divides opinions as much as this does, they're encouraging players to fight against their own factions and to prioritise their own interests over something which arguably they have zero control over (when you consider Niantic's history of changing numbers just for the fun of it).Reply Aug 7, 2014.webp)
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Yes 25% is manageable bring on the new normal. Let's get back to the war..... Kill all fields!Reply Aug 7, 2014.webp)
Hey, Devra said the next iteration would be more powerful. Why just 96 hours decay as compared to a (lesser?) 72 hour decay?Reply Aug 7, 2014.webp)
+Ian Friedrich - Actually I was hoping that the NIA would put this "crazy scientist" behind bars after her last attack.Reply Aug 7, 2014.webp)
Don't you guys realise that Devra's plan is to completely wipe out XM and the portals? Decay rate changes or not we need to stop her from achieving this, who knows what will happen to our world without XM.Reply Aug 7, 2014.webp)
Jon Uzel+2+David Planat Yeah, because that would work so well in a mid sized town where one faction can lock down all portals, effectivly shutting out the other (I've seen it happen, its not cool)Reply Aug 7, 2014.webp)
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Farm. Farm. Farm. If the fields go down I and the other agents will have to adjust our tactics. +Devra Bogdanovich I welcome your challenge. The enlightened will triumph in the next attempt to destroy the portals. I am not fooled in what you are attempting to do. I understand that you may have others fooled in thinking that you want x m destroyed but I know you and the resistance would never give up the power. Ada won't and either you stand with her or you are creating a new faction either way x m is power and you won't give it up.Reply Aug 7, 2014.webp)
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...ok #calvinball #niacontrolthepeople #stopplayingingress... I will protest and whine as long as i want to...Reply Aug 7, 2014.webp)
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Aug 8, 2014- +Helverian mk cry all you want but step out of the way please the rest of us need lvling. Thanks.
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and please all agents do not to forget to go shopping while defending the mall portals!
ehr so they thought! ;)Reply Aug 8, 2014- +Daniel Kaufman you can level even with no decay. Hack burster .. burster down and capture. Or team up with other.
Example: When the decay will be 1-2 days - a few month long.
What will happen? L8 resos will be very rare. There will be many L1-3 Portals...Reply Aug 8, 2014 - Aug 8, 2014
- +Helverian mk then do what the game demands. Work harder. That's why its a challenge. It gives beginners a better play and takes away the comfy palaces of the elder players and forces them to play their game at hard instead of easy. Weather it out. It's part of niantics story and their capital investment to keep going.
And it gives you something to get on the soap box about. Hooray!;-)Reply Aug 8, 2014 .webp)
Ed Twiss+6Put me in the camp of people who think the rapid decay isn't that bad. It really has made a huge difference in our mid size town to create space for new players.Reply Aug 8, 2014- Aug 8, 2014
- I repeat more decay, people creating multiaccounts for leveling! This is a real life virus! +Devra Bogdanovich
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - The decay rate isn't a bad thing for those of us playing in areas that have no opposition
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - +Matt Marshall but playing with no enemy is like playing farmville. Whould be nice to make some events for those areas like NPCs or so
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - +Helverian mk yea but Niantic is stretched thin as it is. I was hoping that this rendition of the virus would flip player alignment on 10% of the portals hacked. That would balance out the game
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Aug 8, 2014- +Yik Sheng Lee It makes one wonder, yes ... Is there more than one faction of Shapers? Or more than one civilization in their dimension?
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - +Tom Lee no one cares about the story only green and blue dots and if they have to drive out more than once a week to actually play
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - +Chris CrankX guess it depends on those who enjoy mysteries as well as shoot em ups.
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - +Chris CrankX guess it depends on those who enjoy mysteries as well as shoot em ups.
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- +Chris CrankX I'm sorry, are we not both replying to a post made by +Martin Schubert, a character within the Ingress storyline? Please attack Niantic's policies in an appropriate place.
Some people do care about the story. You obviously don't, but that's not my problem.Reply Aug 8, 2014 - Aug 8, 2014
- I am talking about others in this post who have attacked my love of the storyline and that I shouldn't care about it because the only thing that matters is game mechs
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Welcome to Ingress, +john riddle! :) You certainly can help, but what is most important is that you have fun. Have you already found your local G+ Ingress Community? ^^Reply Aug 9, 2014- Well, I have local portal about 780 meters from my house in a park. I have not met anyone local as of yet. Thank you for the warm welcome, much appreciated in a gamer world filled with negativity :-)
Reply Aug 9, 2014 - It's a stressful time for many agents, +john riddle, but there are a lot of wonderful people out there.
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- Seems the Resistance is predominant in Kentucky, if you are a smurf, you are in luck.
https://plus.google.com/communities/107277608910475072614Reply Aug 9, 2014 - +Chris CrankX Oh, sorry - I wasn't aware of that. Sarcasm doesn't come across well in text.
Reply Aug 9, 2014 - It's ok +Tom Lee I understand. Yeah the story is what drove me to the game. I can play any capture the flag or zone type game but one with such a rich story is hard to find.
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Aug 10, 2014- +Chris CrankX amen me too;-) those who " just play the game " miss out on so much! I got to meet Susanna Moyer she's awesome.
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We expected that +Devra Bogdanovich would continue to improve her 'Portal Virus' technology.
Data emerged today that suggests that she may have begun deployment of a new, more robust iteration of the Virus. At this point, it seems the rollout will not fully impact the global Portal Network until August 7th. When it does, it will partially undo some of the gains made by Agents in recent days.
As always, however, where there is a will, there is a way. Initial research suggests the the new version of the Virus, though improved, remains vulnerable to heightened XM activity.
The data suggests that bringing one billion Mind Units under control, measured at the final Measurement of the #Helios Anomaly in Chicago this weekend, will mitigate the effects of the second deployment of the Portal Virus.
Should that attempt fail, it is likely that the heightened decay rate caused by the second deployment will remain in effect unless some other more permanent solution can be found using the Helios Artifacts.
Data emerged today that suggests that she may have begun deployment of a new, more robust iteration of the Virus. At this point, it seems the rollout will not fully impact the global Portal Network until August 7th. When it does, it will partially undo some of the gains made by Agents in recent days.
As always, however, where there is a will, there is a way. Initial research suggests the the new version of the Virus, though improved, remains vulnerable to heightened XM activity.
The data suggests that bringing one billion Mind Units under control, measured at the final Measurement of the #Helios Anomaly in Chicago this weekend, will mitigate the effects of the second deployment of the Portal Virus.
Should that attempt fail, it is likely that the heightened decay rate caused by the second deployment will remain in effect unless some other more permanent solution can be found using the Helios Artifacts.
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Great this is why 800 was bad. BTW you do realize we only have 11 checkpoints right?Reply Aug 4, 2014- One Billion septicycle average MU. Time to move. We know Bogdanovich wants to destroy the portals once she disrupts structured XM. Can't risk it.
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- +Devra Bogdanovich, I don't think this is really the outcome you desired. Or are you trying to kill the people who rely on xm to survive. I smell an ulterior motive.
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Volta+21Devra is public enemy #1. She claims to want to save humanity from the harmful effects of XM, but after expressing willingness to destroy humanity in the process, now is actively causing an increase in the XM exposure for the average citizen.
Uncontrolled XM is as dangerous, if not more dangerous, than shaper aligned xm. The only "safe" XM is that shielded from the unwary by Resistance efforts.Reply Aug 4, 2014.webp)
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What's to stop another past 1BMU? Next one 2BMU? Many people feel like they're being held ransomReply Aug 4, 2014- Aug 4, 2014
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Joe Sears+68If +niantic doesn't stop with this stupidity, more people will express the opinion by +Eric Hansen above. Its getting old. Just stabilize the game and let people play.Reply Aug 4, 2014.webp)
If there is faster decay rate, means recharging for guardian portals will be a disaster... Unless you drop tonnes of cubes 8..Reply Aug 4, 2014- Aug 4, 2014
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Why stop there? Just go for the 100% decay per day and be done with it! Go, Go Calvinball Extreme! Woohoo!Reply Aug 4, 2014.webp)
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welp, I guess my collection of over 400 lvl8 cubes will be useful... also it's f**king dumb to mess with the decay rate, I know of at least 20 people who are going to or have quit playing because of it. cut this crap out, it's ruining the game.Reply Aug 4, 2014.webp)
That is an interesting point +Yik Sheng Lee - how could +Devra Bogdanovich work be counter-acted by these ancient artifacts... this means the Portal network is sentient to some degree to sense an attack and produce a counter-offensive that needs assistance from the external factors (us).
Either that, it's those that are behind the original portals could see the future and this situation so crafted a way to defend the network, then that will mean that everyone has it wrong, including +Devra Bogdanovich.Reply Aug 4, 2014- Ingress just became "that recharging game" again. New recruits must be stoked.
Reply Aug 4, 2014 - I'm surprised to see so many so afraid of a little portal virus. Rise to the challenge, wait out the consequences, or ask for your money back and quit. (Or sit back and watch the world burn...) Those who fought the virus came very close to a billion last time. This time the goal is only a small amount larger than what was actually achieved last time.
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Karen Innes+13+Eric Hansen 100% agree it's cute every few months. It's fucking pain in the ass every week. #RageQuitReply Aug 4, 2014.webp)
Had enough of your #CalvinBall bullshit as has everyone else.
You wanna kill off the game? Fine. Let the stupid bitch win and let her delete the portals. A lot of us could give a fuck less. You're only screwing yourself in the end. Shape up or watch how many people won't even bother with EndGame.
Its your funeral. Choose wisely
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Nope, I'm not doing it. Niantic wouldn't purposely ruin the game. I think we should call their bluff and just not play.Reply Aug 4, 2014- Gabriel Lyon+23Nothing more exciting than recharging... It better be a different effect this time..... Start destroying portals... How bout that .... ??? How bout xmp damage increase? How bout you stop messing with the core mechanics and add content? Maybe the virus needs to kill the storyline and put it out of its misery.... Our misery
Reply Aug 4, 2014 - It's ok, I thought it was too easy fighting bots and tracking websites to keep my guardian candidates, let's up the decay rate again.
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Damn Devra, damn the storyline, and damn the decay. all the creators and supporters of this bullshit are killing the game. #boycottthisstupidshit #notealnodeal #burnthatbitchReply Aug 4, 2014- Aug 4, 2014
- First: update game so the most tedious aspect (charging) takes even more button presses. For zero logical reason.
Next: invoke requirement to do even more of said charging.
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There must be an alternative. We're now going to be dosing more civilians with enormous XM levels. This cannot continue. The portals responded last time. Let's see what happens this time.Reply Aug 4, 2014- Johnny Lai+11I am deeply disappointed by +NIA Ops repeat push over limit to the limit. I urge you guys reconsider your decision
Reply Aug 4, 2014 - So let me get this straight (and let's drop the storyline altogether for a moment... or longer.....):
In an attempt to encourage new players to be able to find more gray portals to play with, the decay rate increases. The only way to combat this currently is by creating massive multilayered BAFs to reach some arbitrarily excessive amount of MU.
But then anyone under the fields, including new players, obviously can't link and field, and therefore really can't play the game according to the original purpose: to create control fields for mind units.
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Aug 4, 2014- +Ryan Sullivan your mistake was trying to apply logic in the first place.
Reply Aug 4, 2014 - In the past, people have mostly stuck with the storyline in these sorts of posts by +NIA Ops people. I think the way everyone is instantly saying stuff the storyline, and stuff this BS, is clear evidence that the player base has had enough. Are you listening Niantic?
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Yeah. Lets alienate all the old players to make room for all the new players we got the old ones to recruit for us!Reply Aug 4, 2014- Aug 4, 2014
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Troy Caban+25I wonder how many of us would have to pay to get an Ingress like ap with minimal graphics and a better rule set. Maybe a gm that listens to players. Do we need Ingress anymore? Maybe it's time to kickstart our own game.Reply Aug 4, 2014- +Ryan Sullivan If +Ingress wanted to have/encourage more grey portals for new recruits, maybe they should have reduced the shielding levels (or greatly increased ultrastrike hack rate).
I'm sure almost everyone would agree that portal turnover via active play (attacking) is much more fun than turnover via passive play (waiting for your opponents portals to decay).Reply Aug 4, 2014 .webp)
Jenn Vozzo+24You're taking the fun out of the game and making this and everything about it a chore. I get the back story but this is still a game.Reply Aug 4, 2014.webp)
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Why should we believe that our MU contributions aren't aiding in Devra's research? She is calculative and may fully expect a 1 billion MU count. Why did our efforts to generate 700 million MU only lead to an increase the viruses power?Reply Aug 4, 2014- why don't do it in reverse. global mu below 10mil or 20 mil. I am sure everybody really happy to destroy all the field
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Why can't you get a virus to keep you Bastards out of the game. You made many changes which didn't improve the game.Reply Aug 4, 2014- Kttail+5Oh well...gonna give 'em hell, keep my portals, and still rule my cell! Muahahaha! BRING IT!!!!!
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- Wow! Wonder if its time for the amazing big link communities to cover the entire globe in fields! I hope there isn't a shortage of VRLAs!
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Great way to kill off interest among a wide swath of players, new and old. This does not contribute anything positive to the story or the game play.Reply Aug 4, 2014- Aug 4, 2014
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Seems like a test to see how high the tide of #nerdrage can rise.
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It definitely brings back the emotion in comments! Emotion equals attachment.
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As crap like this gets pumped out more and more often, I find myself playing less and less. Shame really, my start date was 12/12/12.
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Just a thought, but wouldn't making more portals neutral for newer players ALSO discourage the the whole point of the game where it is a social thing and requires teamwork to be effective?Reply Aug 4, 2014- Dustin Wiley+10I have no idea what everybody's issue is with the higher decay rate - I had no issues keeping 4 portals fully charged last go around - scanner on during my drive to work to suck up Xm - recharge. Hack my work portal a few times per day (picking up Xm every time). Scanner on during my drive home to suck up Xm - recharge again. Stop on my way home to hack a portal near my house. Use some power cubes I hacked during the day to recharge once more before bed (though not needed). Repeat each day. Thursday and Friday night I would not use my power cubes so I could recharge Saturday and Sunday.
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Aug 4, 2014- I was telling someone it's gonna be 75% so we have to recharge at least 51% a day to keep them from dying.
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Aug 4, 2014- Bonni Hall+24+Dustin Wiley Ooooh, a whole FOUR portals and you have a work portal you can milk for XM? Well, I stand in awe of your ability to recharge so many portals, especially in such difficult circumstances. Amazing.
Reply Aug 4, 2014 - +Dustin Wiley Try keeping 10-15 or more portals alive with no easy source of XM or steady supply of hacks. Now add in that many of those portals are at a significant distance and you don't get 100% on recharge to begin with. Then maybe you'll begin to see why it's a problem. Oh, and those 10-15 portals? All 8s, which suck up way more XM than an L4 or 5 or even 6.
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Reply Aug 4, 2014 - Joe Sears+15Wondering why portals have to be killed for noobs? No offense to them, but +ingress didn't kill portals for me when I was an L1 smurf (only one here then) fighting an L4, 2 L6, and L7 frogs! I got portals by hitting what I could, linking and fielding, and leveling up. Come on +Brian Rose +Joe Philley and +Brandon Badger you're all smarter than this.
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Let's go on strike and shoot for 0 MU. Take everything down and grey everything out. Let's do the opposite of what they want. #PonyRidersReply Aug 4, 2014- Aug 4, 2014
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F u! lost most fun last time..... Nia Does't know, when it is enough ....
#willkür und #terrorism
That way, Blizzard lost thousends of longtime players with wow ...Reply Aug 5, 2014- When 3/4 of the responses to most of your posts are "you're idiots and you're killing this game"... you're doing it wrong.
Don't confuse tolerance for acceptance.Reply Aug 4, 2014 - Aug 4, 2014
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If you want more grey portals approve the portals we submitted instead of having us wait months & months.Reply Aug 4, 2014.webp)
Why is everyone so mad about this? I think its a fun change, and its just temporary anyway. I am loving the boost to glyph hacks and the faster decay makes things more dynamic.Reply Aug 4, 2014.webp)
The anticheating moves that really only hurt those that arent cheating were making the game undesireable.
The fast decay rate and "here monkeys, jump through our hoops to stop it" nearly killed the game for me (and many others).
This new rediculous crap and new hoops probably will kill the game for those of us barely hanging on from the last crap you all did.
Stop the stupid hoop jumping, remove the stupid stuff like speed block (from the beginning my husband would play while I drove) cheaters sitting on their couch can tell their gps to go somewhere then watch some tv while they wait then do whatever they want, regular players drive to a portal then have to sit there and wait for five minutes for the speed lock mess to stop so they can play the game (punishing those that play honestly because we dont have all day to wait it out at every portal). Just let us play the GAME, stop the hoop jumping or the game will become a ghost town.Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
Aug 5, 2014- Guess this is fun for urban players. Though I only think if one looks at the Intel map, you will see the effect.
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - Tom Lee+2I was kind of wondering whether the next iteration of the portal virus would have different effects, not just some higher resonator decay rate - after all, she's not trying to wipe out the resonators, she's trying to destroy the portals entirely. Some variation would be nice, like maybe resonators randomly changing slots or links randomly relocating, or portals becoming invisible and then reappearing later.
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- Simple solution for those who hate recharging: stop recharging.
I know you have all kind of rationalizations for why you think you have to recharge "my farm!" "my guardians!", but those rationalizations are stupid. It's a game. It's supposed to be fun. If some aspect isn't fun, ignore it. Maybe you won't get some pointless badge. Maybe you won't dominate the area as much. Maybe low level players of the other faction will actually have a chance. Who cares. Build, hack, link, field, and destroy. Play the parts of the game that doesn't suck. Trust me, you don't need a level 8 farm outside your door to do that, no matter what you have told yourself.Reply Aug 5, 2014 - Bonni Hall+20Honestly, this is as stupid as a bad reality show in its fourth season. Ridiculous, all of it. If Niantic wanted to generate animosity and drive players into either anger or apathy, they're doing well. If they had some other thing in mind, well, they're doing it wrong.
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Andrew Orel+10I will not be partaking of this particular set of hoop jumping. Wake me when the decay rate has stabilised at a reasonable level. You've got your location data, what more do you want?Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
Aug 5, 2014- +Per Abrahamsen I not only stopped recharging, I stopped playing. No point wasting equipment, time, and energy.
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I live in a more rural area. I know every player in my town and almost every player in the state. We have lost some awesome players over this.
To top it off, +Martin Schubert, the portals have less xm and there is less xm elsewhere as well. Those in more populated areas may not notice this change, but we sure do here.
I would quit but the friendships and x faction friendships that I have made will keep me pushing forward, but I won't play. I will only recharge since that will again take all my morning before work, lunch, and until 11 pm. Please stop this craziness.Reply Aug 5, 2014- +Matt Nelson haha! I'm betting your comment and mine don't get us any passcodes...
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Aug 5, 2014- +Per Abrahamsen men.... You are awesome... Thanks for your honesty... You have stopped my stupid anger....
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Brandon Yeo+12Niantic is trying to end Ingress #endgame , hence the reason why they are increasing the XM count. As many people get fed up with their lame antics, they will leave the game making it easier for Niantic to close down the servers without having thousands of angry agents knocking at their door demanding their head. Am I right +Niantic Project +Ingress ?Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
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+Vicki Ellen When you were levelling, the city wasn't a stronghold of L7, 95+ mitigation portals.
Any change they make, people will scream "you're doing it wrong". But at least here, increased decay makes things more interesting (ie levellers can actually_do_ something)Reply Aug 5, 2014- Aug 5, 2014
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Ian P+24Nope. Not going to play this one. Did it once. Said then that I wouldn't jump through your hoops again. Very disillusioned with the current 'thinking' behind the +Ingress direction.
Please stop killing what could be a great game.
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I'm hate loosing my portals to decay, I want to loose them to the green.
I hate to take grey portals, I want to take green portals.
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Sorry, but if you continue with these dumb actions, you are destroying the game. Through this, more and more agents rely the game!!
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- +Dustin Wiley 4 portals? That's cute. try that with 40 portals ... so that the rest of the team can be out blasting with a full inventory while you maintain the farm.
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With the bots and this bs is there any wonder why I don't bother with guardians?Reply Aug 5, 2014- +Tom Lee Devra's goal is to elliminate XM, and the first step is to make as much portla neutral, as possible. Low level portal equals low XM ingression. I hope we will not get to the second step, when portals start to disappear.
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +Pam K we who live in more populated areas and more portal dense areas feel it too. Maybe more so due to scale.
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I think we should go down the official route and fill out Niantics complaint form... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JAZszldt4T5fUFoki7JJdpVmsiuX40VYSSXIaiFDSAM/edit?usp=docslist_apiReply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
+Niantic Project we are not doing it again. And now with the new idiotic extra screen to recharge? I recharged 38m xm, which means I recharghed 38 thousand times, half of which during the high decay. Do you call having to do this a game? drop your silly storyline, find something compelling and original instead of feeding us the same stuff over and over. Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
I live in a rural area, and you're killing the rural game. It's hard enough to get portals to a high enough level to get any useful gear, and now we can't get enough gear/xm to keep those portals alive. People are quitting in frustration. And the closest big city to me is losing players as well through this, because it's equally frustrating for them to try and keep anything alive, or to hold strategic locations for any period of time for bigger ops. Not to mention the people who've lost guardians because they went away for a weekend to a place with no phone reception. I've loved Ingress and all the fantastic people and experiences it's brought me, but you're losing me fast with this; and I'm far from the only one around here. You're taking away a lot of fun and adding a lot of work, and nobody is paying us to play.Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
Yeah. Good game killed. Why they are trying to improve already good game? Like it was said before - Stop messing with core and add content.
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+Niantic Project +Ingress, you definitely need to hire someone who lives and plays ingress in a remote location - you obviously don't understand how very different the gameplay is outside of a huge US city!
If you insist on these decay speed rule changes as part of your story line, why not put some thought and effort into it and make it something like this: Areas of high portal density have a higher decay rate, and areas of low portal density have a low decay rate.
That way rural players aren't as badly affected as city players, there is plenty of XM in the city for city players to recharge stuff - but out in the country, there is very limited XM!Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
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+Volta, you do realize that she is not a real person and the whole storyline is only there to justify whatever Niantic needs from a strategic point of view, e.g. Providing more gray portals for ios users in densely populated areas. I'll pass on this and rather enjoy the summer while it is here.Reply Aug 5, 2014- +Vicki Ellen Not quite as bad given that max mitigation was 40, so at worst a portal took 66% more bursters to destroy (compared to 1900% more at 95 mitigation).
I see your point, and Niantic does need a better solution, but you can't deny that this is helping the new players a lot more than leaving things as they were.Reply Aug 5, 2014 .webp)
This whole stupid storyline is woven into the Helios series. It's here until it's done, if we meet their targets or not. Whole point of the game is defeated by this stupid virus. No point in defending portals or attacking them. Just wait 2 days and they will be dead anyway.Reply Aug 5, 2014- +Taman-Tyler Grafton no ultrastrikes back in the day.
I killed a 190 mitigated P7, fully charged, with just three US8s the other day. Admittedly, it was a pineappled portal, but still. Ultrastrikes love a foot player, hate the cargressesers.Reply Aug 5, 2014 .webp)
Aug 5, 2014- +Stephen Rees-Carter better to have it tied to hack rate than portal density, I'd say.
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +John Duffey Hack rate of ultra strikes isn't high enough to be able to use them on every portal in sight, so most of the time you do still need to fight the full mitigation until the RNG decides to pop the shields.
They don't really seem to have deterred the cargressers at all. We also thought they would, but it doesn't seem like it.Reply Aug 5, 2014 - Aug 5, 2014
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I think people in Niantic angry that the game plays much the players.
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Alex Meatman+121bmu... ARE YOU F..G SERIOUS? let us play already. My city is flooded with bots again. When they are banned and their resos removed, their r and vr shields remain installed.
My point is: you can't fix the basic things in the game and yet you encourage us to play this. This eve medal and recruitment crap looks hypocritical and offending with this 1bmu crap. You make new stupid portal screen but can't deal with cheating properly and refuse to ban the botmaster @bugfixXxer because from his main account there is no abnormal activity (though he has been controlling bots for over 1.5 years in Minsk). You give us a challenge which we overcome (800mmu) and then deceive us and give a new one (1bmu) which we have to overcome to have our game back.
Yes ingress is free. But remember this. This game changed a lifestyle of thousands of ppl and therefore you are committed, +Niantic Project and +NIA Ops. If you don't give a damn about us please continueReply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
Aug 5, 2014- bored now. Really wishing I'd not booked a hotel for manchester, and not really sure if I can find the enthusiasm for it.
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I think you all you sandy vaginas need to chill out. Seriously?! Look what you're all crying about. I meant the whole whiny bitches thing by the way....Reply Aug 5, 2014- Aug 5, 2014
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It is simple... Do NOT make fields to get lowest score possible. Yeah the decay rate will increase but we can send a message stronger than their message of hey now jump thru this hoop while juggling blind folded over a pit of fire.
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So, are you actually trying to kill the game?
Those that can adapt will adapt. Those that can't will quit.
#NoMoreHoopsReply Aug 5, 2014- Oh how about starting the removal process of portals to include submissions accepted for portals in other cities, states, and countries. Start by placing an instant double check for any portal submitted by player Nomad64. He has crazy locations for places like Buckingham Fountain, which is in Chicago, placed in his hometown of Plainfield IL. That is just one example of his cheating behavior all in the name of Seer badge hunting. I will be submitting a post dedicated to this once I get out there to take pictures of the actual site and screencap the portals added by him that never should of been. This type of madness needs to stop and have strong punishment for this activity.
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Please just don't play us for fools, increase the decay rate already to where you think it should be. Recharging is boring, and seeing you pull numbers out of ... well let's say a hat ... as goals is equally as boring, and a harassment for all the people who put in a lot of effort to reach the last global MU goal against portal decay. We want to destroy and rebuild, we want humans as main adversaries, not the clock of a server.Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
"Get to 700m to stop the decay. Erm, did we say 700m? We meant 1bn... Nah, call it 2bn."
Like a couple of people further up said:
a) Stabilise the rules - at the moment you're not encouraging new players, you're encouraging old players to tell new players not to bother.
b) Hire some more ARG writers - if you had a plan and then things don't go your way, you need to figure out how to work with this, not just to continue as if it didn't happen.Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
Aug 5, 2014- +JR Dykes The issue for some of us is that Niantic are playing us, rather than providing a playable game that we can play.
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - Time for the one star play store review. Maybe that will hit the designers in a key metric.
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When we were debating the idea of a third faction we never expected it to be NIA themselves... And to take God power on top of that!! Effectively neutralising all portals globally once a week.... Never mind wasting a large percentage of agents time (& money) by undoing their hard work! All done from your soft google couches as well... It's time to move alright... AWAY FROM THIS BS
#NoTealNoDealReply Aug 5, 2014- +JR Dykes Again, you miss my point. I don't care if you understand or not. Clearly, you enjoy Niantic's style. Not all of us do.
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"Gee, we didn't make that hurdle high enough. Instead of thinking up something new, let's piss off the lemmings... err... customer base by doing the exact same thing none of them liked the first time, but raise the bar by 40%, after only two weeks."
Here's an idea: Fire the hacks and hire storyline writers with actual creativity.Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
Aug 5, 2014- +JR Dykes Thanks, I already have. Except then people accuse me of rage quitting, and being a wimp, letting the team down, and so on. So it's basically put up with shit or take shit for it.
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- Sounds like a bunch of cry babies. Play the game or don't but stop crying because the game is constantly evolving. Who wants to play a game that is easy. Challenges make things interesting if there is no challenge it becomes boring.
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Steven Hill+11As someone who is not a peasant farmer, this bullshit storyline has done more damage to the 200+ P8 farm than a year of enemy action. The decay rate we managed... Barely. The shields popping off like Nia's mum's knickers is just taking the piss.Reply Aug 5, 2014- Aug 5, 2014
- +JR Dykes Oh spare us that BS please. I like the mechanics of the game itself, but the storyline where there's no "white hats," just two groups choosing if they're going to be slaves to aliens or an AI is mediocre at best. And if their only idea is
ever-increasing portal decay unless the users jump over ever-higher hurdles, that shows a pronounced lack of creativity, and a complete ignorance of the real-world needs of those that choose to play their game.
Changing the rules every two weeks to support a Swiss-cheese storyline immediately after creating a massive influx of new players is NOT the way to get those new players to want to stay.
They're screwing with an excellent game for the sake of a badly flawed story. They should be fixing the story for the sake of the game.
in the words of Dennis Miller, "Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."Reply Aug 5, 2014 .webp)
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Because some players (especially rural) need to try to keep more than 4 portals charged. Some agents attempt to keep entire farms charged with little helpReply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
+Chris CrankX Most of the people commenting here are people who have put in a lot of time and effort into this game and have enjoyed the challenge. People are often making their own collective challenges in the game and mostly outwith the story. There is no doubt that the players here are capable of meeting the challenge but the grievance lies with the fact that the fun is being removed from the game for the older generation and their hard efforts eroded very quickly by tampering in the game mechanics. Surely the existing player base are allowed to voice their concerns as the ones with the most experience of where the fun in the game actually lies and try and influence a rethink before the game becomes unfun for them and they quit.Reply Aug 5, 2014- I find it hard to do it so I concentrate on a park that I can drive to on the way home to and from work. If I don't want to waste gas I go to a farm I can walk around. If you don't have a farm in a rural area do your best to find a way to submit portals in your area. There are things you can do.
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- +Alan Stevenson so they quit Alan. If you don't like it then quit. Stop being a crybaby or roll with the changes. Challenge makes a game interesting.
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+Taman-Tyler Grafton When I was levelling up there was 1 portal in my home town submitted by myself. As player living in rural area it took me 1 year to make lv8 ( I lost interest for 6 month over in the mean time) and now game is lunched for iPhone and all suppose to be grey to make it easier for new ones? That is not fair ( in my opinion) somehow young players from my fraction are properly looked after and they do not complain about AP, where to get that from. Local Community organize places, events. In my opinion that is how it suppose to go for new players not by changing basic mechanics of game.
It brings me to analogy ( which I do not like at the end) when you buy car no one will tell you that from now on it will take tipple amount of fuel than it was before but you also have to drive much faster now. Conclusion - change car.
I do not like that conclusion cus of community I managed to join and we are all now creating.Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
I have a feeling Google have all the data about points of interest they need from this game, and are now going to destroy it.Reply Aug 5, 2014- Aug 5, 2014
- So +Filip Blaszczyk what would you suggest to them. Keep the game exactly the same. The challenges make the players become more versatile. If you can't role with the changes quit or pick a game that is consistent and will never change. It is suggested that chess is like that.
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I have to say - I quite like the faster decay rate. It's turned a local area being blanketed in a single colour, to a more active combat area, because there are greys to grab and link. I hope it - and the better hacking returns - stays.
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Hightened decay means less motivation to play. Pointless to explain why that is yet again. I'm out, fuck Ingress!Reply Aug 5, 2014- Aug 5, 2014
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Aug 5, 2014- +Chris CrankX stop insulting people by calling them cry babies because they voice an opinion. Players are trying to inform niantic that they don't find the current storyline/changes to be fun. They are entitled to that opinion and after putting in countless hours and several thousand km of walking each they don't just simply want to quit. Perhaps the game changes suit you or you enjoy the challenges that it has brought - great for you but not everyone feels the same.
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - I disagree that it's less motivation to play - it just means you don't take and hold as many portals as you used to - and neither does anyone else. Which means there's less overall blocking-link-spam, and you don't have to be tooled up just to start doing something.
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Bring the decay. 1/3 per day was great, you could actually find areas not spam linked to hell and make fields bigger than 10k without having to flip 10 portals to clear links in the way.Reply Aug 5, 2014- +Alan Stevenson it's a game Alan. If you don't like it quit. And yes crying about it makes you a cry baby. Play something more consistent if you don't like the changes. The reason I play games like this is because they change constantly. If you want to voice your opinion then I can voice mine too. Go niantic keep it up I love that you wanna keep throwing rocks on this pond I call life
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It's all a game. Also Devra always does what she thinks is best for humanity. Hopefully she's rightReply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
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Aug 5, 2014- +Hernán Troccay how can NIA ruin it. They made it..... way to be a baby. WAHHHHH The candy you gave me isn't my favorite flavour!
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +Alan Stevenson The older generation needs shaken up a bit. I am part of that group. All change is multi-impact. In this case, I value the increased portal decay as a way to let new players capture more portals rather than be discouraged by the static farms in their region.
I understand your view here, to a degree. I just have my own too.Reply Aug 5, 2014 - Aug 5, 2014
- I"M NEVER GONNA EAT CANDY AGAIN CAUSE THEY GAVE ME THE WRONG KIND AND I HATE THEM FOR GIVING ME ANYTHING cry Cry seriously guys grow up
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +Aaron Mann don't believe the No Teal No Deal folk I supported were of that mindset
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +Steven Hill haven't experienced it but having to gather folks to make farms rather than massive static ones sounds like a good thing to me.
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- +Chris CrankX decay rate leave as it is. It is still higher than original, Get rid of stupid additional screen with rotating photo of portal. Fix bugs, This game is team play about MU, Linking, visiting places not about recharging. What for there is seer badge with crazy expectation for Black? What for there is Guardian badge with 150 day limit? You and Me and I think all of us want to have fun, expand game have more players but focusing on recharging? +Niantic Project encourage us to submit more portals, ( good more options for linking, fielding, bad recharging). And more and more. Maybe someone finally will conciser option to reduce graphics and battery usage and data consumption? So far all goes in direction of increasing that.
Apart from that my personal opinion. Higher decay rate is bad.Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +Matt White 1. Sounds like crotchety folk talking there. I encourage people to play regardless. 2. Storyline was set to end after 18 months (so I hear) but games popularity has surpassed that. curious as to your take on that...imagine no storyline. Would you play?
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Iaian Ross+14Wall of text incoming...
I'd really like to know what is behind the design decision +Niantic Project made for this case.
Normally there is 10% of a Portal's Energy in XM floating around it, and the normal decay rate was 15% a day. So if you visted a portal, it requires 5% more XM than the Portal has to give. i.e. a L8 portal will have 4.8k in XM floating around it and at one day's decay would require 7.2k XM to recharge, effectively 1 L8 Cube if done remotely or a L3-4 Cube when visiting the portal after consuming its XM. I think that's a very fair rate
During the first accelerated decay scenario, the decay rate was 35%, or on an L8 Portal 17.8k XM a day, to 4.8k XM floating around it. A net loss of a whopping 13k of XM after just one day. Effectively either 2 L7 Cubes, or 1 L8 and 1 L5 Cube to recharge... after you have consumed the XM FLOATING AT THE PORTAL. TO FULLY RECHARGE, and that's just one portal. Nevermind that cubes drop at a rate of about 1 in every 3-4 hacks on a good day. And now Niantic wants to increase it further?
In areas of high portal density, the amount of resources required of each player far outstrips their capacity to actually maintain use of those portals in states of very high decay rates. After all, for L8 and above players the high rate of decay means their resources are hurt the most, as they have the highest capability to maintain portals, but also the most to lose as it means getting the resources to maintain those portals is being significantly degraded because no amount of hacking can generate the resources they need to maintain the portals they get their gear from. Even with assistance because they would also be struggling to keep up with other portals as well since different players look after different portals, and it's usually only a handful of players maintaining an individual portal at different times and days of the week in areas of high traffic, but maybe 1 or 2 (if lucky) in surburban areas, and even less in rural..
At this point I would not expect anyone to bother with recharging portals due to the serious drain on player resources to maintain them, and thereby completely invalidate an actual key strategic component of the game in the process.
It doesn't make sense from a game design perspective, so why concoct a narrative excuse for the reason behind a deliberate decision to make portals require far more in in-game resources per player to maintain than the game gives to players? And more to the point why do it again with even higher stakes?
A long post, I know but I and I think nearly everyone who's posted here can see right through this embarrassing charade.Reply Aug 5, 2014- +Matt Tandlmayer Big static farms are boring, true. Might be a little different approach to that in Rural areas when you have to get other players to come with a visit sometimes drive over 100 km for that) . But with bigger numbers of players there will be less static farms. Not necessary increasing decay. As someone above said. It is more fun to actively play than passively wait for portals to die. Also Farm is A Farm. Of course it is easier to farm from your own green / Blue ( pick up correct) but no matter what colour have farm it is beneficial, gear wise for both sides.
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +Foo Halil Bar this is the FIRST valid complaint I have read in this collection of obsessed folks. If you can't have fun with changing conditions you are doing it wrong.
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Aug 5, 2014- +Bob Johnson depends on situation for that. Would love to know if this agent is your faction or not.
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Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +Stephen Rees-Carter sensible suggestion. Yet farms can be less dense but equally static.
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Well this is frustrating. Fortunately my guardian got hit this week so nothing to protect. It's summer time, game play is down. Last time I found myself working alone to build and defend because of lack of cooperation on both sides. I'm not putting myself through that again. Sorry +Niantic Project I need a timeout.Reply Aug 5, 2014- Aug 5, 2014
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- +Matt Tandlmayer Having a massive farm isn't a static exercise... Daily maintenance from a large number of players is required, and in all corners of the city... Re-shielding, patching up, linking in, etc. You can't just set up 200+ P8s and walk away for a week and expect them to still be there. With the city in tatters, even this week I've recharged over 5M, with my monthly total at 23M...
Assuming the farm stands, you're then looking at working in the buffer zones to the farm, whilst levelling up new players, and having teams rolling 8s knowing they're not core portals, trying to expand the empire.Reply Aug 5, 2014 - Interesting 257 and going, what posts have the most comments, what topics cause people to take the extra time to type a reply, wonder if people really are reading all of the comments...
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+Matt Tandlmayer There are other ways then making the game a chore, general increased decay is boring. it makes it impossible to keep fringe portals and destroys the game for anyone rural.
increased decay based on portal activity, number of hacks or missing resonators. increased decay based on health of the portals, first 50% xm goes at 15% per day and the rest at 25%. Any of these would reward the active team and punish those just tending to portals rather then forcing the active players to spend all their time recharging..Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
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- The hardest working players in the game are those who maintain large farms so that their teammates can raid and link and field. This rule change is a kick in the teeth to them. I can't comprehend why that group is singled out for special punishment.
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Things like that (devra story, changed decay etc.) should be implented as "cell missions" on random cells, every 3-6 month ONCE. But not global like NIA is doing it again! Like +Sarah Rosen said... it ruins the gameplay and will build a 3rd faction: "the stop playing the game & go away NIA" faction !Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
This hurts, if I lose 5 months work I may not attend the event afterall.Reply Aug 5, 2014- Niantic is crazy if they think ill play 24/7. Im already obsessed remember?
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Andrey R+3me thinks that with the increase in the number of players from iOS, this decay is a good thing. in good old times a single person could own and maintain more than 10 portals spread far apart geographically. now i can only maintain the portals which I frequent and therefore can replace the decayed resos while charging only a couple resos/portal. its a PITA but manageable. the point is - stop being greedy folks, adjust - you can only have what you can hold. if one can't recharge his 50+ portals "personal" farm - to me it means he can not have that farm and he will share the space with the iOS noobs. and that is OK as it adds dynamics.Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
My fellow players. Its time for both factions to put aside their differences and unite against the true common enemy. Niantic Labs. Lets show them we will not be manipulated like puppets.Reply Aug 5, 2014- The object of the game is to build portals, and link and make fields to control physical territory.
When everything decays faster than you can maintain it, there is no point to building. When all you have to do is wait, there is no point to raiding.
After more than 18 months playing#CalvinballIngress one big lesson we learned is that players who level up too quickly and are not challenged quit fast. Those of us who stayed with the game leveled up slowly and struggled to find AP when we were minnows swimming with sharks.
Making the game too easy for new players makes them less likely to be part of the local team. They don't join the hangouts. They miss out on the only thing that makes Ingress worth playing: the social aspect. They quit early.
By making a change to the game that simultaneously frustrates long time players and makes them quit, as well as robs the new players of the best part of the game, +NIA Ops is killing off the game. If this is by design, tell us now. Save us the time, money and energy. We'll stop and you guys can have your desk jobs back.Reply Aug 5, 2014 - Aug 5, 2014
- +Matt Tandlmayer - there's a storyline...?
Seriously, most of the people I know who play couldn't give two of the proverbials about the story. The local dynamics and Ops are much more interesting than anything that could be written. It's Green vs Blue in a combination of weaponised FourSquare, Capture The Flag and Geocaching.
You asked if anyone'd keep playing if there wasn't a storyline? How many people play Call Of Duty because of the storyline? How many people play WoW because of the storyline? How many people play EVE because of the storyline? Pretty sure the same's true in Ingress.
Danger is that the storyline and the game mechanics need more attention from +Niantic Project, and from the outside it looks like they need to hire some additional talent to look at these. At the moment they're just managing to piss a lot of people off.Reply Aug 5, 2014 - Tom Lee+1Wow, look at all the complaining. Much of it is reading more into this than is actually there. Summary:
• New portal virus hits Aug. 7 (Thursday)
• If MU total equals or exceeds 1 billion at the end of this weekend's Anomaly, it will go away (i.e. it will have been in effect for ~3 days)
• If not, the virus's higher decay rate (rate unstated) remains until the artifact minigame is over (date unstated)
That is ALL this says. If cross-faction efforts can reach a billion MU (IIRC the last effort reached over 950 million), the increased rate lasts 3 days max. If not, there will be further announcements, probably related to the artifact minigame.Reply Aug 5, 2014 .webp)
last virus induced 72 hour decay, right? How about 72 minute decay? 72 second decay? Instant decay of any portal that doesn't have a level 7 and Level 2 resonator on it?Reply Aug 5, 2014- Aug 5, 2014
- Tom Lee+1+Matt White Actually I wouldn't play WoW if it weren't for the storyline. I'm not sure there could be a WoW without a storyline.
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This is ridiculous. Nothing to play for after level 8, exept badges, and recharging like a lunatic, does NOT make a great game. Stop your shit +Niantic ProjectReply Aug 5, 2014- +Loyd Hutchings - fine, my point is that it's not the be all and end all though. This doesn't seem like a logical storyline though, it seems like "Oh bugger, they met the arbitrary target, let's just put another one in..."
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- +Matt White I agree wholeheartedly I was a seven year veteran of 0.0 EVE, and the best part about that was that the story was 99% player created/driven outside of the game developers entirely. It also made me an evil SOB of a game player... and I loved it. I quit EVE when it became more of a job than a game and chore aspects started to overwhelm my ability to do what I wanted in the game (different circumstances, actually driven by the player economy more than game changes but...), I just don't want to see the same sort of drudgery become the norm with Ingress where I should be out traveling, killing, fielding vs. doing the same loops day in and out to keep a farm recharged. However to do the fun stuff, I need gear, so I need the farm.
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Aug 5, 2014- +Loyd Hutchings If they run this game right, you and your community should be able to be your own GM, creating missions for yourselves and having the flexibility to carry them out. Here in Michigan, we have two great powers separated by some distance Lansing (Resistance Stronghold) and Wyandotte (Enlightened) These are the equivalent of boss level areas for each side respectively, and by having them, the areas in between have sorted themselves into warring outposts Ypsilanti vs. Dexter Mi, Sterling Hts vs. Eastpointe, and all of the areas in between those have developed into nice battlefields where both sides fight for control. My interest in the global story is superseded by a really great local dynamic. Groups and members from both sides setup ops to hit each other, but it requires coordination and organization not unlike high level raiding in other MMOs. We don't need a strong and invasive story-line to keep it fun.
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Also, reading Schuberts/Devra posts, it's full of "suggest", "suggest", "likely" etc. So yeah, more on the way. As was the case in older posts. I'm surprised that so many players are still eh..so surprised.Reply Aug 5, 2014- I feel compelled to comment on all this talk of challenge. 1 billion mu might pose some form of co-ordination and be a challenge but in regards to the tampering of game mechanics they seem to have the effect of making the game not more challenging but stupidly easy. Capturing a grey portal is not challenging and this seems entirely aimed at making things easier for the influx of new players with a contrived storyline.
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +Jennifer Kasun if you spent money time and and will reaching long distance portal, contact with others to do leveling all that its for nothing if decays in a blink. Its no point in made big operations. If nia searchs for fast leveling. There is no challenge. Old players play the game with tons of effort. And group with others so we help each other . Please think before you speak. Your game in a big city its very much diferent from a game in rural areas . Recharging portals its the most static and boring part of the game. It doesnt take much effort and didnt encourage to go outside. It doesnt made me go far away and discover new places.
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Just LOL. So you are trying to force people to a story... There are a lot of people who will sabotage events or quit, because they are pissed.
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Evidence suggests that setting an agent goal of avoiding negative consequences may work occasionally, but my sources indicate that positive consequences will motivate agents to achieve goals and may improve morale. #noblackmailReply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
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This just screws those of us in rural communities right out of the game. I can't afford to drive all over the map to get enough xm to keep a small standing farm up. If I lose it then it's back to driving two hours to the nearest urban flash farm.Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
Aug 5, 2014- Maybe +Devra Bogdanovich is really +Google and they decided that +Ingress had gotten dumb and so they want to kill it off to get +Brandon Badger working on something useful instead.
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +Hernán Troccay you're right that recharging portals is the most boring part of the game, but it is what makes all of those exciting ops possible. The "grunt work" of Ingress is what makes dominating play possible. The unsung heroes who do the grunt work have the worst stats, but when they disappear from the game, entire cities collapse. These presence of these "worker bees" makes a faction strong. Their absence makes a faction weak. They are the "baseline power". It's the guys who will walk in circles for hours to recharge that farm and your portals that makes your faction dominant.
Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +nick nack "I have never seen an entire city collapse because someone quit!"
My city went from fairly balanced to overwhelmingly blue when a green player was put in timeout by Niantic for a couple weeks. Others have seen things you haven't!Reply Aug 5, 2014 .webp)
What a stupid way to run a game. Can't wait until they realise that but it will happen after many good players have quitReply Aug 5, 2014- Aug 5, 2014
- +Hernán Troccay Dude I had my largest mu field ever killed because of portal being"corrected". It got moved from a really hard location in the middle of a forest to where it should be... on a road. AND I LOST MY FIELD. I know how it feels.
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+Kris Habraken Yes, yes, a thousand times yes! They overdid it with the last shielding bump, and things passed a tipping point and slid into stagnation. Leaving decay as it was originally and dialing shields back a bit (20/30/50 was plenty, IMHO!) is the way to go if they want to make things more dynamic for new players. It puts the dynamic emphasis on active attacking rather than passive decay, and doesn't have all the tedious recharging fallout.
Lately it feels like Niantic has just been swerving chaotically back and forth with the changes, over-correcting repeatedly.Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
Aug 5, 2014- +Sarah Rosen +nick nack Or Wyandotte, Dearborn, Dexter, or Lansing MI. These are the regional power centers of most of SE Michigan and Northern Ohio. The existence of these farms facilitates the regional cooperation on both sides (against each other ofc.), supplies some pretty epic raids, and has close knit communities build around their maintenance and defense.
They also give the high level players an opportunity to have real targets of merit to attack that aren't just dusting off a few decaying L5-7 portals around town. They provide an open challenge to players of both sides willing to coordinate attacks big enough and supplied well enough to attempt them.Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +Stephen Rees-Carter The same goes for ridiculous spoofing, playing out in the country you have to drive faster than 50km/h to get a portal, so getting spoofed on every single one only hurts the honest players.
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Please remember all: Really this is just a big beta game. You are playing for free. Big swings like this that affect the player base and allow them to collect data that ultimately makes the AR platform technology more valuable. This is the "first" in a new generation of games. Expect to get what you pay for.Reply Aug 5, 2014- Aug 5, 2014
- +Vylnce NA This is one of the most expensive games to play out there, and data is a valuable commodity. We pay with our time, material, and our habits that they track. I would be more than happy to pony up a subscription fee if they would stop this non-sense.
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Aug 5, 2014- +Mathew Fogg didn't you just call for a higher bar, because 700 million was too easy? Don't complain now that you're getting your wish.
+Stacey Bissell if you and others are not farming them enough to recharge them with their own XM and cube drops, they are of marginal value to begin with. Even 6s and 7s that you can farm every day are worth more than 8s you can only hit one a week or less. Stop trying to hold portals you aren't using heavily, and you'll have less to complain about.
+Sarah Rosen why can't the rest of your team also help maintaining the farm that keeps their inventory full? It was never intended for one person to hold the city, keep the farm up solo. This is a team game. Even if you're playing solo, you have to do some teamwork, unless you never want any high level gear.
+Steven Hill what makes you feel entitled to a 200+ P8 farm? Where in the rules or ToS does it promise you that as part of your gameplay contract? If you can't handle it, scale the farm down to a level that you can maintain, and be happy that you still have access to more P8s than most of the world.
+Matt White to the contrary, it's the only logical way the story could have gone. What, were you expecting the obsessed scientist character to say "crap, my first attempt failed, I guess I'll just give up"? That's not how science works.Reply Aug 5, 2014 .webp)
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You guys wanna stop fucking up my trying to get a guardian badge. JESUS!Reply Aug 5, 2014- +Thomas Fisher If you don't have a dedicated team to recharge your guardian during 4 hour decay cycles, you don't deserve a guardian....
AMIRITE ... +Ian Friedrich ?
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+Gabriel Lyon I guess this is ironic, isn't it?
Should better adress +Ian Friedrich : ever tried to play alone in a rural area with no other members of your faction and nearly no XM lying around because of low portal density?
No?
Well, take a four-week-vacation, move to a rural area far away from cities with let's say 5 or 10 portals within 10-20 square-kilometer range and no car and no people from your faction, but 2 or 3 from the other faction.
Busses driving to the next city (20km away) every morning at 6 o'clock, first bus returning 13 o'clock, second (and last) returning 17 o'clock. And to make it feel real: go to work in that vacation as if you were working on a usual work day.
And THEN tell us, if it is fun playing Ingress ... or if anybody DESERVES anything because of not having a team.
Thanks.
Oh, and btw: how big is the highest level of a portal you can build on your own? What do you think: how many L7 or higher Powercubes are going to drop to help you to recharge?Reply Aug 5, 2014.webp)
Sigh, bs. what a bs. Yet again we're gonna loose players on both sides it seems.Reply Aug 5, 2014- +nick nack recharging is pretty much all I do. I don't have time for much else and everything I farm gets recycled for ... guess what? Recharge. If you don't have someone like this in your area then I can see two possibilities: your area flips constantly, there is a bot master operating in your area or both. Someone is recharging stuff. That guy is carrying the load.
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- +Gabriel Lyon It must be nice living inn area where phone signal and portal density is great. I live where the only phone provider that works is Verizon and teammates don't get signal. I'm also glad you expect everyone to play like you expect. Self righteous prick.
The fact is, if the point is to mix up game play and keep it interesting, try other things. Link decay, 4 reso deployment only (demands teamwork) to name 2 right off the top of my head. This is just getting old.Reply Aug 5, 2014 - +Ian Friedrich While I agree with many of your points, you are looking at it with a narrow mindset. There are those who live in areas where game play requires use of a vehicle and a normal commute may not take you by but 1-3 portals. Throw in xm density to where you're lucky if you can fully recharge your bar in a 10 minute drive and the game play changes. Hell, just deploying on, linking/fielding & hacking 10-15 portals for supplies can use 1/4 a tank of gas. I'm beginning to think the devs forget about the portion of it's players living outside dense metro areas. It would be great to see higher xm rates in areas where portal density is lower as an "anomaly" with these things.
Now before you ask, yes, I've submitted 151 portals in my region (an area about 1-1.5 hr drive away from my house). But I can only submit what exists, unless they let me start submitting my horses, dogs, or the trees on my property.
With that said, I'm enjoying the struggle to get my submission badge. And overall, I like the badge earning process more than I did the actual leveling up to 8 last year - it actually brought me back into the game after leaving lat August. The only good thing about this decay rate is I might hit black on my recharge badge if I can get enough power cubes to keep it going. I just hope Niantic doesn't try to set the bar so high with their "goals" to end the things that it makes it nearly impossible - especially when you have players who don't follow the story and do everything they can to ruin teamwork among the two sides.Reply Aug 5, 2014 .webp)
you ever think it is so the new recruits have s chance of taking normally week defended areas?Reply Aug 5, 2014- +Thomas Fisher I agree, this change definitely hits rural players the hardest. That's why rural strategies need to change accordingly. (Roughly half of my play is in rural areas, and the other half is in the city, so I'm quite familiar with both.) The rural game has never been good for farming, but if you have a car it can be great for fielding. Once a field is up, you only need to recharge three resonators per portal to keep the links intact, and the portal level doesn't matter any more. So let the other 5 resonators on each portal decay, and save XM. Or populate most of the slots with R1s, so the portals are full and can throw and catch links, but are still fairly cheap to charge. If that's not giving you the range you need, upgrade a couple more, and maybe throw link amps on them.
If you do manage to get your 1-3 daily commute portals to 6s and 7s to be useful for farming, still let R6s and lower decay. For three days they maintain their levels, then you redeploy and get more AP, trigger a fresh XM spawn a minute or two later, and still only have to replace resonators of a level that your portals give back.Reply Aug 6, 2014 - 346 comments and still growing.
And very very few favourable.
Wonder if the message is getting through to +NIA Ops ?
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+Alan Kerlin they may read it, but they will not understand. They're thinking to be god and the whole world has to follow like blind sheepsReply Aug 6, 2014- Aug 6, 2014
- +Thomas Fisher Jesus man I was being sarcastic... the 4 hour decay cycle thing should have been a clue.
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+Alan Kerlin as with anything online people like to bitch and moan. I don't mind the increased decay rate, probably because I'm on the side which doesn't have the 16:1 ratio of L8 portals to give me infinite easy L8 gear.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you're right, if you really dislike it that strongly do like someone else suggested earlier, ask for your money back. :PReply Aug 6, 2014.webp)
+Andrew Watson I'd rather say: You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest... WIIIIITH A HERRING! Knight who say Ni!Reply Aug 6, 2014.webp)
And yet all of you continue to play, which is why they continue to do things such as this.Reply Aug 6, 2014- +Daniel Ortiz which is why I said, they shouldn't confuse tolerance with acceptance.
Reply Aug 6, 2014 - But that's how it works. If you continue to use their product, you're accepting it.
Reply Aug 6, 2014 - +Daniel Ortiz I disagree. People still enjoy the game, despite the stupidity and idiotic changes.
Tolerance is defined as an indulgence for beliefs differing from or conflicting with one’s own.
Acceptance is giving approval without protest or reaction.
Believe it or not, you can tolerate something without accepting it.Reply Aug 6, 2014 - Aug 6, 2014
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It's all bullshit. They leave loopholes so we're in the blind, and so they have a wait out. Plus, to some extent, they're just trying to get both factions to work together 1: to up the playing of the game, 2: so we ask more players to join, AND...so we get use to playing together, SHOULD they decide to bring a 3rd faction. But regardless, it doesn't matter if we hit 1B mu or not. They will use loopholes till they decide to stop screwing with us. Like, changing what portals give out. Then gracing us with cube codes. Granted, they are shitty cubes & wouldn't power a fart, much less recharge an L4 portal, but still, they're giving us cubes! (It's all bullshit).Reply Aug 6, 2014- Screwing with us. It is part of the story line it motivates you to compete in the events
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- If events/anomalys helped with MU's, which is what they request to stop the virus, then it may motivate people to do more with events/anomalys.
Reply Aug 6, 2014 - +nick nack. They are not creating the story line for just you nick it is for everyone and as a new player I like that it takes down some of the fortresses.
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- I agree wholeheartedly. It's time to stand together against the true enemy,
Nianic Labs.Reply Aug 7, 2014 - Good news!... August 7th no changes to decay... call off the ops +Devra Bogdanovich must have slept in.. Virus over...
GG, thanks for playing, you don't have to go home but you can't stay here and whatnot.Reply Aug 7, 2014 .webp)
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+Matt Tandlmayer I couldn't care less about the storyline. I joined relatively late and never bothered to investigate it. IMO The game would be even better if it were Blue vs Green without the stupid bs around it. I started playing before this crappy anomaly came in, and managed to get to L9 in less then 90 days, playing mostly across a rural area and one medium sized city dense in portals. This attempt at "helping" noobs is spoiling the game for the skilled players. Not necessarily the old ones, but also young ones like me who prefer the challenge of actually fighting the war against the "enemies" instead of cowardly leveling up only on grey portals or almost-decayed abandoned enemy portals.
New players are often helped and tutored to level up with the help of their team mates in my cell, we've never seen any need for or benefit to new players from the faster decay rate. It only means I have to press over 300 times a day the Recharge button, not to mention the 4 (!) consecutive pages you have to make your way through to get to the recharge screen.
No L8 stable farms = next to zero L8 gear for everyone = shit = game effectively impoverished.Reply Aug 7, 2014- Aug 7, 2014
- +Federico Spadone but whether you like it or not the story is the core of the game. So you can either play it with the story line or move on to a standard zone capture game. I hear clash of clans is like that. I play for the changes and hopefully things like this will weed out players that can't roll with the changes
Reply Aug 7, 2014 - +Chris CrankX the story is not the core of the game. The game is perfectly symmetrical between the factions, and it is about making triangles. you can overlay a story on top of it, but you a) don't have to and b) they make the story as they get along, there is not an ending or desired ourcome, and thy can change the story to justify any change to the game
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - So +Piero Filippin why do they call it a portal virus. Or why do they mention +Devra Bogdanovich or why do they talk about +Martin Schubert. Triangles are mechanics that follow an intricate storyline.
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - At the core +Piero Filippin it is a story and a game is played around it. Three books say I am right
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - +Chris CrankX again, the story is just made up as needed. It is not reality do you get that part? If they want they could say the portals are decaying because they are covered in raspberry jam, and it would have exactly the same value.
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - +Piero Filippin I know what is real piero. But you do understand that there are books in REAL life that this game is based on and it is being written while the game is going on and the mechanics you are talking about facilitate the story line that is being written. I know the difference between real and fantasy and the whole game is fantasy. There is nothing real about it.
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - +Chris CrankX I would recommend you don't send your bank details to that Nigerian prince. I know, I know, it must be true because it is written on the Internet, still you don't have to do it.
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - 😆 Lol 😆 ok figured I would have a polite conversation with you but insulting me seems more your speed good day. Piero enjoy the game.
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - +Chris CrankX Books have been written to support the story as required by the game. The game was not created from the books, the books were created from the game.
There is no real life aspect to the Ingress storyline, just like there is no real life aspect to The Bourne Identity.Reply Aug 8, 2014 - +Chris CrankX ok, you are right and that's why everyone +1'd other's comments: Because portal virus is creating anomalies inside G+ which make people agree and +1 comments they dislike or disagree.
Also, the Harry Potter books are based on the movie... Yeah. It is not a result of good selling of the first product, not at all.Reply Aug 8, 2014 - Here is the true story behind Ingress game: hey, we want to get location data about more people in the world, also, we want stuff for our copy of 4squar'ks, let's induce people to accept sending location data to us and make them do the work of creating some content for 4squar'ks.
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- LOL, no. Avoiding comments that the story has some kind truth behind will suffice :-D
You should not believe everything you read O.oReply Aug 8, 2014 - +Lucas Ktulu789 . I would not underestimate the psychological experiment - they expect us to run through the maze because they moved a slider.
Reply Aug 8, 2014 - +Piero Filippin Oh, no. Not at all! Not at all!
But sometimes I don't know if they are experimenting with us or mocking at us. The latest update has only one difference: one more tap in the recharging process... Right when recharging becomes a front aspect of the game.
Is the new screen useful? Not at all. Makes the game better? No. Is the screen beutiful? IMHO the low res picture looks like crap when resized and the turnig effect reminds me of ancient web pages with java animations, Also the resonators charge bars are invisible when the image is half rotated.
Oh, and they added mass key recycling which seemed to be forgotten in the prior version.
Previous updates had more meaningful changes than these, don't you agree?Reply Aug 8, 2014 - Maybe their goal is EXACTLY to investigate rage quitting and are pushing us to the limit. Just like the "experiment" they were conducting over Facebook..
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- +Lucas Ktulu789 . I read about FB experimenting on a number of their "subjects", never trespassing their license agreements. The experiment was about social engineering, like "the effect on the mood of people (and masses) of small subtle changes in the content selected from the other users."
Just Google it for the exact details.
Maybe Niantic wants to end the Ingress experiment, and harvest in the process other useful data about the psychological reactions of an increasingly frustrated player base.Reply Aug 9, 2014 .webp)
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I did not know +Hank Johnson prior to the Niantic Project, and I think if I had not ended up there, we might never have been friends. Not just by merit of being in the same place and time, but because before I joined the Project, I was a proud skeptic. The bar of proof I required was so high that barely an idea was able to make it past my filters. The very opposite of Hank, a man who wandered into barren deserts and untamed jungles based on nothing but a hunch.
The funny thing is, I can count more times Hank was right based on those hunches then I was with my mountains of evidence. Life is full of such surprises. Working with him on his Nomad projects has been such a surprise, and a privilege as well.
It's difficult to pick sides in the conflict of ideals about XM and its potential for humanity. As a scientist, my instinct is to stand back and evaluate carefully before drawing any conclusions.
But, I accept that there are guides with a gift, buried in their instinct, who can sense the right path forward. Hank's journey over the last few years has caused me to see the amazing advances made by humankind over the last few thousand years in a new light. Perhaps we did not do this alone.
The natural world teaches another lesson as well. The goal of life is to grow until checked, consuming every available resource to propagate. If, in ADA, we have created such a lifeform, its growth may end in our suffocation.
The funny thing is, I can count more times Hank was right based on those hunches then I was with my mountains of evidence. Life is full of such surprises. Working with him on his Nomad projects has been such a surprise, and a privilege as well.
It's difficult to pick sides in the conflict of ideals about XM and its potential for humanity. As a scientist, my instinct is to stand back and evaluate carefully before drawing any conclusions.
But, I accept that there are guides with a gift, buried in their instinct, who can sense the right path forward. Hank's journey over the last few years has caused me to see the amazing advances made by humankind over the last few thousand years in a new light. Perhaps we did not do this alone.
The natural world teaches another lesson as well. The goal of life is to grow until checked, consuming every available resource to propagate. If, in ADA, we have created such a lifeform, its growth may end in our suffocation.
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Jun 9, 2014- +Hank Johnson is not merely lead by his "hunches". His intuitiveness is resonating with a higher collective of information. He is the instrument that +Roland Jarvis wishes he was for the enlightenment.
Reply Jun 9, 2014 - If only there were a way for us to affect the course of history and depose Jarvis in favour of Johnson. I know that most Agents around me feel the same way.
Reply Jun 9, 2014 - So +Martin Schubert, who is it that guides +Hank Johnson? You imply that his hunches have a source, but it is clearly not the same source guiding +Roland Jarvis.
Reply Jun 9, 2014 - It feels like we are getting closer to being able to explain why those hunches work out so well for +Hank Johnson. Thank you for sharing your thoughts +Martin Schubert. It's a fascinating concept to think of ADA along natural lines of reasoning. A solid reasoning point to be sure.
Reply Jun 9, 2014 - We all appreciate that skepticism, it's often the best tool for understanding and explaining new phenomena.
Reply Jun 9, 2014 - We can't get by with hunches all the time. A hunch at best is passion inflaming reason to act.
Reply Jun 9, 2014 - What if he really has seen it all before? Perhaps the memory of Hank Johnson goes back further than even his current set of recursion.
Reply Jun 9, 2014 - Are you suggesting, +Jim Typhoon, that it may be a simulacrum preserved at the 13 Magnus nest - with the original body in another room of the sanctum?
Reply Jun 9, 2014 - Something like that. You think Azmati just went through all that trouble to save his old war buddy? Possible, but the alternative is compelling: we know historically that there were many "tombs of Alexander" scattered all about, and what we know of 13Magnus has shown us the true use of such things.
Hank may be someone else entirely than we expect, or he may have some form of genetic/ancestral memory that Azmati detected and found worth preserving.Reply Jun 9, 2014 - Hank could be Alexander, but his memories were changed for each simulcrum as time goes on.
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Wright, Stein and Nagassa tell interesting stories, but all of my training would tell me that this is a pattern we are tracing upon a behavior-- a pareidolia.
But sometimes, those patterns are undeniably there. One that’s piqued my curiosity is what IQTech is calling the ‘Shaper Septicycle.’ It’s a misnomer, of course, or perhaps a very intentional choice of words by the brilliant Ken Owens... That would explain the 7-person bicycle jokes.
While at Niantic we often speculated that the Ordered data may hold a queue and execute cadence, but were never able to advance the research enough to confirm it. It seems that IQTech has been able to continue where Niantic left off.
Cycles of seven are found in nearly all major religions, histories and human patterns. The Egyptians used groups of seven. Atlantis was made up of seven islands. The Greeks gave us seven daughters of Atlas. In the Bible we find seven days of creation, seven loaves of bread multiplied into seven basketfuls, seven deadly sins and seven acts of mercy. From India we get the seven Chakras and the seven steps walked by the Buddha. In Islam we find the seven levels of Heaven.
The list goes on and on. Why? Why do we see this pattern throughout history?
But sometimes, those patterns are undeniably there. One that’s piqued my curiosity is what IQTech is calling the ‘Shaper Septicycle.’ It’s a misnomer, of course, or perhaps a very intentional choice of words by the brilliant Ken Owens... That would explain the 7-person bicycle jokes.
While at Niantic we often speculated that the Ordered data may hold a queue and execute cadence, but were never able to advance the research enough to confirm it. It seems that IQTech has been able to continue where Niantic left off.
Cycles of seven are found in nearly all major religions, histories and human patterns. The Egyptians used groups of seven. Atlantis was made up of seven islands. The Greeks gave us seven daughters of Atlas. In the Bible we find seven days of creation, seven loaves of bread multiplied into seven basketfuls, seven deadly sins and seven acts of mercy. From India we get the seven Chakras and the seven steps walked by the Buddha. In Islam we find the seven levels of Heaven.
The list goes on and on. Why? Why do we see this pattern throughout history?
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Jan 19, 2014- Seven days of marching once around Jericho, except for the seventh day. They marched seven times around the city that day. Many examples of seven appear in the Bible.
Reply Jan 20, 2014 - Irish folklore attributes healing powers to the seventh son of a seventh son. The English, on the other hand, warn that such a genealogy would result in a werewolf, which calls to mind some statements made by +Yuri Alaric Nagassa.
Reply Jan 20, 2014 - you know +Jose Ramirez I wonder with that "myth" if something similar to Die Glocke was used to bring the walls down.....
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7 heavenly bodies that visibly moved every day/night were tracked by the ancients. One of those 7, Mercury, spent 7 days in each of the 12 houses of the Zodiac, before repeating it's cycle.Reply Jan 20, 2014.webp)
Seven day cycles are even built into our biology. While some of them may be culturally imposed by the structure of the work week, others, like the life cycle of bone-remodeling cells or the pattern of tooth enamel formation, are pretty clearly hardwired in. Chronobiologists call them circaseptan rhythms. They're not as well studied as circadian or annual rhythms, but there's some interesting research out there.Reply Jan 21, 2014.webp)
Completion...rest...contemplation...withdrawal from physical to non physical...mater into thought, sprit etc...Reply Jan 21, 2014.webp)
As the forth prime number, it's the first that can't traditionally be displayed on one hand; Unless, say, you're using your thumb to represent 5 like an abacus, or you count binary on your fingers (up to 31 on one hand, 1023 on two hands)Reply May 10, 2014.webp)
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Is anybody really contemplating the implications of what a Dark XM attack on what functions as a Living XM being (or at least a sentient thing that can manifest in our dimension) really means?
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